s-10, to Brazilian s-10, to diesel engines, to foriegn vs...

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:31 pm

I had to ask this question. I know it's a longshot, but is there any chance of an s-10 comeback? It seems like to me that they were very popular vehicals. There are many in my town. I know they did better than the Colorado. It seems like all car names now have to have something to do with nature. I know they are still selling them in Brazil, but those things look like Nissans. I would keep buying if they keep selling. Also, if they are discontinuing the Colorado, what are they going to replace it with?

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:35 pm

I saw a website that gave this: http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06/co ... he-us.html That would be horrible!

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:55 pm

I've seen some ugly "trucks" but that one is worse than ugly!!!!!!!!!!

Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:23 pm

...I don't think that really qualifies as a truck.

The "S" series is still very popular in western NC, a hot commodity on the "Previously Owned" lots. I have an 03 and I get a letter in the mail about every other month for the dealer wanting to buy it back.

sonomadude4x4 · Post by **sonomadude4x4** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:13 pm

that picture isnt a truck ha i would be ashamed to drive anything that looked like that

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:30 pm

I would disown chevy if they produced something like that in America. If you haven't seen the Brazilian s10, here is a link. The scary part is that they want it in America. http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f19/ ... ere-30087/

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:35 pm

nebby58 wrote:...The scary part is that they want it in America. http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f19/ ... ere-30087/

Add me to that "scary" list. The twin turbo diesel option would be amazing!
We have several members from other countries that have some pretty awesome s-series trucks.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:38 pm

The engine, yes, that thing would fly. I don't like the look of it. Wouldn't mind dropping the diesel in mine! If they redesigned the body, it would be cool.

sonomadude4x4 · Post by **sonomadude4x4** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:40 pm

+1

on a twin turbo diesel in a s-10 i would buy one in a heart beat

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:44 pm

Did anyone else read the comment on the thread on the link from griswold44? That brought me down a little...

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:46 pm

The Hombre / S-series has better cooling with the open front design, No more crawling over the grill as it is part of the hood. Fogs are down where they will do some good. The Sonoma / Envoy headlamps that have been so popular. Sure seems like they were on the "popularity poll" train.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:51 pm

I was never a fan of the s series grill until I installed by billet grille, but thats jmo. I always loved the headlights on them though. Even if they are not the best for performance, they stand out on the truck for me. I always thought that that was what seperated the s10 from the sonoma, but that is jmo.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:03 pm

Here is another thing to consider, I didn't think about this before. Would the twin turbo deisel meet US safety regulations?

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:04 pm

nebby58 wrote:...I didn't think about this before. Would the twin turbo deisel meet US safety regulations?

Safety, yes. Emissions, No.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:21 pm

HenryJ wrote:
nebby58 wrote:...I didn't think about this before. Would the twin turbo deisel meet US safety regulations?
Safety, yes. Emissions, No.

Is there any chance the s10 will be brought here?

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:29 pm

Not likely with the current administrations views. It would take drastic changes to open their eyes to the wisdom of the greater fuel mileage being greener than visible emissions.
Look to Holden GM for what is really possible. German diesels are quite advanced too. We will continue to be decades behind the rest of the world.
I am not saying that a diesel is THE answer, just that we could have so many more efficient models from which to choose.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:47 pm

Here is a decent video on the brazilian s10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ8UOrWi2ks it looks alright, but the interior is a little basic, but that could be just the trim. I think most american car makers are looking for a little more $$$ because they know that they have the american market. Americans are a little hesitant to buy foriegn (usually), so the foriegn companies have to prove themselves. That is why the main arguement in buying a toyota is quality. Your absolutely right, the gov. has to stick their noses in everything. National debt, wasteful spending, and government restrictions. I'm gonna stop cuz I'm getting off topic.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:56 am

nebby58 wrote:... Americans are a little hesitant to buy foriegn (usually), so the foriegn companies have to prove themselves. That is why the main arguement in buying a toyota is quality.

Actually the opposite is true. Japan and their dependable long mileage vehicles forced the US automakers to step up. You are too young to remember that we used to have to rebuild an engine every 120k miles. Now 200k is not uncommon. You can thank Toyota for that.

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:31 pm

I gotta agree with Brule on that one. I never realized how durable Toyota motors were till I worked at a Toyota forklift dealer. Those little propane fired four poppers were tough as h*ll! Racking up thousands of hours with no problems. Their trannys seemed to hold up quite respectably too. Made me alter my opinions on them quite a bit.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:28 pm

HenryJ wrote:
nebby58 wrote:... Americans are a little hesitant to buy foriegn (usually), so the foriegn companies have to prove themselves. That is why the main arguement in buying a toyota is quality.
Actually the opposite is true. Japan and their dependable long mileage vehicles forced the US automakers to step up. You are too young to remember that we used to have to rebuild an engine every 120k miles. Now 200k is not uncommon. You can thank Toyota for that.

How long ago?

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:07 pm

nebby58 wrote:How long ago?

It started in the late sixties when Japan started selling trucks here. By the seventies they were being accepted as a serious vehicle. In the eighties they started their domination and the US auto manufacturers started to realize that they would have to build a longer lasting vehicle or be left in the dust.
I would say the mid seventies was about the time a Toyota engine would go 250k miles before REALLY needing a rebuild. A mid seventies Chevrolet would be ready for its second rebuild.
It took probably another two decades for them to catch up and convince the public that a domestic could go 200k miles.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:19 pm

HenryJ wrote:
nebby58 wrote:How long ago?
It started in the late sixties when Japan started selling trucks here. By the seventies they were being accepted as a serious vehicle. In the eighties they started their domination and the US auto manufacturers started to realize that they would have to build a longer lasting vehicle or be left in the dust.
I would say the mid seventies was about the time a Toyota engine would go 250k miles before REALLY needing a rebuild. A mid seventies Chevrolet would be ready for its second rebuild.
It took probably another two decades for them to catch up and convince the public that a domestic could go 200k miles.

Yep, thats before my time. But what about ride comfortability? That is the main complaint I hear, from toyota anyway. I have heard they can be very stiff when they hit a bump.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:37 pm

nebby58 wrote:...But what about ride comfortability? That is the main complaint I hear, from toyota anyway. I have heard they can be very stiff when they hit a bump.

Take a ride in a late seventies to early eighties domestic truck. There is a reason they call them lumber wagons.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:55 pm

HenryJ wrote:
nebby58 wrote:...But what about ride comfortability? That is the main complaint I hear, from toyota anyway. I have heard they can be very stiff when they hit a bump.
Take a ride in a late seventies to early eighties domestic truck. There is a reason they call them lumber wagons.

If I can find one...

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:08 pm

Wanna buy a 81 Dodge Powerwagon D150 4x4? I've still got one and yeah it does ride like a lumberwagon! One of my projects I never seem to make/take time to finish.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:15 pm

roadrunner wrote:Wanna buy a 81 Dodge Powerwagon D150 4x4? I've still got one and yeah it does ride like a lumberwagon! One of my projects I never seem to make/take time to finish.

Sure! Give me $100 and I'll tow it away! I try not to buy cars that are older than me.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:55 pm

nebby58 wrote:...I try not to buy cars that are older than me.

There is a bad habit you need to break!
Old Iron rules...

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:38 pm

Now it all makes sence! I have been wondering since I joined this forum why your picture was a different car when it is a s10 forum. Cool ride! I'm guessing Studebaker? That might be way off. Lets see, I gotta car, you gotta car. Straight up trade?

There is a big difference between buying junk and buying classic.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:44 pm

nebby58 wrote:...Cool ride! I'm guessing Studebaker?

Not quite. It is a HenryJ

There is a big difference between buying junk and buying classic.

That is a fine line as one mans junk is another mans treasure.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:50 pm

HenryJ wrote:
nebby58 wrote:...Cool ride! I'm guessing Studebaker?
Not quite. It is a HenryJ
There is a big difference between buying junk and buying classic.
That is a fine line as one mans junk is another mans treasure.

I always thought that was your name. My friend's '78 ford is junk. THAT ^ is classic!

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:12 pm

nebby58 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:Wanna buy a 81 Dodge Powerwagon D150 4x4? I've still got one and yeah it does ride like a lumberwagon! One of my projects I never seem to make/take time to finish.
Sure! Give me $100 and I'll tow it away! I try not to buy cars that are older than me.

Not likely as it's currently worth around 400 as scrap iron! As for the older than you that means you're eliminating all the true "muscle cars" as well.

They had class and style as well as true performance. Only reason I don't get rid of it now is the fact I have more than 500 in the heads alone not to mention the rest of it's goodies and it being a non-california emissions factory 4bbl 318.

Coincidentally it's not far from you in NE Nebraska on a friends farm.

rlrnr53 · Post by **rlrnr53** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:56 pm

I had a 78 & a 84 K1500 long bed pickup. The 74 rode a little rough, but not enough to complain about. The 84 had a good ride before I put overloads on it to carry a slide in camper. All things considered, they rode as well if not better than a full size car of the same size when you include handeling too.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:27 pm

roadrunner wrote:
nebby58 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:Wanna buy a 81 Dodge Powerwagon D150 4x4? I've still got one and yeah it does ride like a lumberwagon! One of my projects I never seem to make/take time to finish.
Sure! Give me $100 and I'll tow it away! I try not to buy cars that are older than me.
Not likely as it's currently worth around 400 as scrap iron! As for the older than you that means you're eliminating all the true "muscle cars" as well. They had class and style as well as true performance. Only reason I don't get rid of it now is the fact I have more than 500 in the heads alone not to mention the rest of it's goodies and it being a non-california emissions factory 4bbl 318. Coincidentally it's not far from you in NE Nebraska on a friends farm.

I try not to go into Nebraska when I don't have to. Especially since Nebraska joined the Big Ten. Cross the boarder with an Iowa T shirt on, and you got a problem. I'll cross for a mustang if you have one on your hands!

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:34 pm

nebby58 wrote:
I try not to go into Nebraska when I don't have to. Especially since Nebraska joined the Big Ten. Cross the boarder with an Iowa T shirt on, and you got a problem. I'll cross for a mustang if you have one on your hands!

Awwwww, now that ain't nice. I'm a husker fan and I don't mind you wearing an Iowa t-shirt. I've had lots of fun over the years teasing the Mrs about such things since she was born in Iowa.

If I had a mustang it'd be expensive for anybody wanting to buy it provided it was for sale at all!

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:18 pm

roadrunner wrote:
nebby58 wrote:
Awwwww, now that ain't nice. I'm a husker fan and I don't mind you wearing an Iowa t-shirt. I've had lots of fun over the years teasing the Mrs about such things since she was born in Iowa. If I had a mustang it'd be expensive for anybody wanting to buy it provided it was for sale at all!

I'm telling you man, I'm not sure if you heard, but after the Iowa State, Nebraska game, a group of ISU fans ganged up on a Nebraska fan pretty bad. It was a big deal here. I'm not taking my chances

Say one thing wrong and there could be a

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:44 pm

nebby58 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:
nebby58 wrote:
Awwwww, now that ain't nice. I'm a husker fan and I don't mind you wearing an Iowa t-shirt. I've had lots of fun over the years teasing the Mrs about such things since she was born in Iowa. If I had a mustang it'd be expensive for anybody wanting to buy it provided it was for sale at all!
I'm telling you man, I'm not sure if you heard, but after the Iowa State, Nebraska game, a group of ISU fans ganged up on a Nebraska fan pretty bad. It was a big deal here. I'm not taking my chances Say one thing wrong and there could be a

Dude! Yes I heard about it clear out here in the middle of nowhere. We have them fancy radios and such. Don't see where you'd be afraid to wear the Iowa shirt in Nebraska because as you mentioned above it was the ISU fans who got unruly not the Nebraska fans. This has been a problem for years between ISU and NE. For the most part when playing at ISU. Husker fans are (even by announcers comments) some of the best behaved and most courteous fans in the NCAA. I wouldn't fear any revenge scenarios in this case but if the situation were reversed and it was an ISU fan that got the beating I certainly might. Years ago I realized the situation at ISU stadium and even in Lincoln when they visited and made up my mind that was one game I would always skip regardless where played. Just don't need any of that kind of interaction with those who think with their fists and not their heads. I learned a long time ago: you can beat stupid to death and it'll never get any smarter.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:18 pm

You'll get a kick outa this! Just make sure to spit your chew out. (Kidding) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZqgA4EB1I

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:19 pm

UmHm. Probably an Iowegian straining his mental abilities to come UP to that level! I think it will be highly interesting to see how the match-ups turn out in the big 10 now. It's always been my impression if you were not from the pac 10, big 10, or the southeast conference in the eyes of those who are (and a good many sports writers) you just didn't know how to play football at all. That kinda fell flat last fall with the teams that ended up playing in bowl games and top pick match-ups. Personally I don't take it all that seriously. At the end of the day it is just a GAME. I have Husker pride but there are just too many more important things to worry about than football.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:32 pm

N stands for Knowledge! I know what your saying, but when you have season tickets to Kennick Stadium (the best in the country) it is hard not to get into the games. It's gonna be a tough conference, but it will be fun to see what happens.

roadrunner · Post by **roadrunner** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:20 pm

If you want to think so. Enjoy your tickets and have fun and be courteous to all while there. There's nothing quite as classy as well behaved fans. I'll just enjoy the games from the best seat in the stadium anywhere. My easy chair with DVR with pause and super slow motion as well as all the best camera angles in the place. Not to mention a well stocked fridge nearby! I think we've hijacked this thread pretty badly so we better get back or allow it to get back to it's roots.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:44 pm

Yep! This thread went from s-10, to Brazilian s-10, to diesel engines, to foriegn vs. domestic, to buying a '81 truck, to an Iowan's hatred toward Nebraska fans, to the ISU fans beating up a Nebraska fan, to Kinnick stadium.

nebby58 · Post by **nebby58** » Sun May 01, 2011 7:26 am