Hypertech Power Programmer 3

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:27 am

quickbiker wrote:Ordered it this morning. The HPPIII for $306 from here: http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/

Had to call them though, the web don't list it.

In stock, be here next week!

You got one?

If so congrats! You'll love it! I'm anxious to compare the settings you plan to use.

Split this topic, to deal with the HPPIII specifically-HJ

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:37 pm

Yea, I'm all fired up. I could ask you a million questions, but I guess I'll wait and see for myself!

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:08 pm

I wanted to double check my setting, and had some time today, so I grabbed the programmer and ran through everything again.

After the MSD install I needed to lower the 2-3 shift point , as it was a bit close to the rev limiter.

Here is what I am using now-

Engine tuning=87 octane tuning

Engine rev limiter=5800

Top-speed limiter=128

Tire size=30.5"

Rear gear ratio=N

Transmission=Y

Shift point MPH&RPM= 1-2 (-1), 2-3 (-2), 3-4 (-1)

Shift firmness=Y

If you get the error message to call Hypertech, shut it off check your connections and start over. It has happened to me a couple times. Probably because I was moving the box/cord around.

Takes about 10 min. for the whole process.

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:55 pm

I guess one concern is could I back up the flash memory. Someone I know said they heard you can do this and save it. I just would like to make sure I either know or have saved the default factory setting before I start fudg'n with it.

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:41 pm

quickbiker wrote:I guess one concern is could I back up the flash memory. Someone I know said they heard you can do this and save it. I just would like to make sure I either know or have saved the default factory setting before I start fudg'n with it.

Yes that back-up is done, push one button to return all the settings back to stock

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:57 pm

Hey, you took out my buick reminiscing shots! I know, we gotta keep on the subject!

But I got add, lol

Split topic and moved to NOS . Don't be afraid to start a new topic -HJ

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:23 pm

I would think if you set it for 93 octane would make at least maybe 10 more hp? And maybe gain 2 mpg to pay for the extra cost? just my thought, or am I dreaming?

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:42 pm

The way I see it you would have to gain 10 hp by advancing the timing. I'm not sure that is reasonable to assume. I'm not saying it is not possible, just that I'm a bit skeptical.

As for mileage you would have to gain the 2, plus another 2, for a total of 4, to make up the increase in price over the 87 octane.

I don't really think this would be the "magic box" that would give you both performance and mileage.

I really haven't seen big horsepower improvements , or a decrease in mileage. So I'm pleased. I will have to try the 93 octane tuning though. After I get through adjusting the plug gap for the MSD.

I don't want to make a whole batch of changes and not know what worked and what didn't

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 8:04 pm

Well, even when I am stock, I run 89 octane all the time. When I run 87 I ping. Maybe it's just me, but every vehicle I have owned always knocks with anything less than 89. Must be my luck or some'm!

So, I was guessing the price diff between 89 and 93 vice from 87. LOL

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 8:19 pm

quickbiker wrote:Well, even when I am stock, I run 89 octane all the time. When I run 87 I ping. Maybe it's just me, but every vehicle I have owned always knocks with anything less than 89. Must be my luck or some'm!

So, I was guessing the price diff between 89 and 93 vice from 87. LOL

Ahh, point taken

Without the tuning a change to 93 is unlikely to yield enough of an increase in mileage.

Re-programming for the 93 octane tuning would advance the timing more and perhaps add more fuel? I don't know what exactly the programming does for the fuel curve.

I think you would be lucky to get the same mileage.

Though, I'm told there is a noticeable increase in "go" (hp)

TNC · Post by **TNC** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 1:13 pm

Here is kinda an off the wall question... Is 93 octane availible where you guys are at? or do you just "custom" mix (by adding octane booster or a splash of 104 race gas)? All we seem to have is 91 and at $2.09 a gallon still I can tolerate the pinging...

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 1:32 pm

Never see any pump without it. I know it's different where you are at. Got that methenal stuff too, eh?

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 8:21 pm

Is my programmer here yet?

I guess this thing doesn't to diagnostic trouble shooting, does it? ha

Warnoffroad · Post by **Warnoffroad** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:37 pm

HenryJ wrote:I wanted to double check my setting, and had some time today, so I grabbed the programmer and ran through everything again.

After the MSD install I needed to lower the 2-3 shift point , as it was a bit close to the rev limiter.

Here is what I am using now-

Engine tuning=87 octane tuning

Engine rev limiter=5800

Top-speed limiter=128

Tire size=30.5"

Rear gear ratio=N

Transmission=Y

Shift point MPH&RPM= 1-2 (-1), 2-3 (-2), 3-4 (-1)

Shift firmness=Y

If you get the error message to call Hypertech, shut it off check your connections and start over. It has happened to me a couple times. Probably because I was moving the box/cord around.

Takes about 10 min. for the whole process.

rev set at 5800? can our motors take that? My tach doesnt even show that

Post by **HenryJ** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:04 pm

warnoffroad wrote:rev set at 5800? can our motors take that? My tach doesnt even show that

I'm not sure what your Tach says but mine goes to 6000. The factory rev limiter is set at 5600 rpm.

I have it shift at 5300-5400 max.

The rev limiter is an overspeed safety , I don't plan on ever taking it there.

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:29 pm

And I thought you were running 31's?

Post by **HenryJ** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 9:15 pm

quickbiker wrote:And I thought you were running 31's?

Yes, the Yokohama's are on the smaller side of 31" (no rubbing)

I used the GPS to get it as close as possible

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 7:11 pm

I got it today and programed it up. I only changed it to 31's and firm shift. It's seems allot better when I took it around the block. The real test will be tomorrow to work and back. I may fill up with 93 oct and see what that setting does, but first I wanna see what this does.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Apr 23, 2003 7:22 pm

Woohoo! You're gonna love it!

I don't know why it doesn't shift that way from the factory.

I had to de-program mine today , as a safety precaution when I took it in for warranty work. Couldn't wait to get the shiftfirmness back on! Those mushy, slipping shifts are hard to tolerate once you've had the HPPIII.

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:28 am

HenryJ wrote:Woohoo! You're gonna love it!

I don't know why it doesn't shift that way from the factory.

I had to de-program mine today , as a safety precaution when I took it in for warranty work. Couldn't wait to get the shiftfirmness back on! Those mushy, slipping shifts are hard to tolerate once you've had the HPPIII.

Yea, it's great! It's not a harsh shift at all, but what it should be. I noticed allot less slips and the half shift crap. Also feels a bit different from the tire calibration (i think).

I do want to look into changing the 3-4 shift point. I scanned it fast last night, but do not fully understand it and skipped through that part of the programming. I will check tonight though. My idea is to lower the shift point from 3-4. And are the shift points only for WOT? Or will it change the shift point at say 1/4 throttle when going up a hill. Ya know what I mean? Like if it was set lower, my idea is that it may hold 4th gear a bit longer before it goes down to 3rd. My route to work is pretty much non-stop 60-65 mph, and it is rolling hills (not steep), but just enough to make it shift to 3rd just before the top. So if I lower the shift point just a tad, it may make it hold just right. And it's not like I will ever have it WOT going from 3rd to 4th! Geesh, that prob be about what, like 100mph to do that? LOL And I forgot to bring it with me, so I can't make a change during my lunch. dag nabbit

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:08 pm

Wowzers, I really am glad I got the HPPIII. It was worth every penny $310 or so, especially if you are running 31" or taller tires. I got it all programed. I got it set for 93 octane, 31" tires, 3.73 ratio (set it just for good measure), changed shift points: 1-2 (normal), 2-3 (-3), 3-4 (minus8), and for sift firmness. I think I covered it all. It's like so awsome. I have no desire for gear changes now. I changed 2-3 shift cause it was going into the dotted redline. 1-2 was perfect shift stock, and 3-4 was changed so I would hold 4th on slight hills on the highway. I'll never do WOT 3-4 shift anyhow. Oh, I set it for 110mph limit and 5800rpm limit (although I should lower it), I never want to do more than that! LOL. The nobbies would probably fling off the tire! lol

My engine dows feel peppier and better mileage, unless that was from the speedo calibration for tires, dunno, feel way more better overall, feels like a different truck. I may try -10 on the 3-4 shift, but that may be too low, dunno.

I am very happy to say the least. And I feel I have saved money, cause I don't feel I have to re-gear now! Yehaaaawwww!

I bought it here: http://www.autoaccessconnect.com/hyppowprogii.html

It looks cheaper here, but had trouble getting a hold of them on the phone: http://www.ftforce.com/

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:21 pm

Did I get that excited when I got mine?

Glad there is another "believer" here

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:35 pm

Dag nabbit, I probably missed your original post about it. I just figured how to see new messages since last visit thing. Now I think I catch all the new stuff.

Post by **HenryJ** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:39 pm

I was just joking

I tend to be a bit less...

and more...

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:42 pm

I'm always hyper, LOL.

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:58 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/05/pf/autos/superchips/

Thought this was interesting.

Brad

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:13 pm

Nice article!!!

TNC · Post by **TNC** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:36 pm

quickbiker wrote:Never see any pump without it. I know it's different where you are at. Got that methenal stuff too, eh?

Not sure what where on now

... all I now is my truck is doggin' on the "Summer Blend" I need on of those hppIII just to make my truck run smooth

It is way to early for a tune up only 15000 miles or so... but I have to give it one...

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:32 am

Just got back from my trail ride. Wow, the best trail in VA I've been on yet... but more on that later. I did have time to program to -10 3-4 shift, that seems to be perfect now. I am still amazed at the mileage increase. I think I am getting better than I did when I was totally stock. I sitll haven't run a whole tank on all highway yet. But I almost got 300 miles on a tank, and there was about 5 hours of wheeling in it also. So I think I will get over 300 miles on a tank now. I know my speed is calibrated too, I matched it with someone's gps and their own speedo. So, the 93 octane tuning more than pays for the price difference.

Post by **HenryJ** » Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:05 am

Guess I'm going to have to try a tank of the 93 next month.

I'm still testing the changes from the ignition system mods, but you've convinced me to give it a try.

Warnoffroad · Post by **Warnoffroad** » Tue May 06, 2003 6:52 pm

I have a few quesitons before I order one. What is the -1,-2,-3,-4 and stand for when you guys talk about shift points? And i'm not sure if this is true, but I read that you can set it for 87,89,and 93. If I set the pp for 87 and put 93 init will it hurt my motor? or set it for 93 and put 87 in the tank?

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Tue May 06, 2003 7:16 pm

warnoffroad wrote:I have a few quesitons before I order one. What is the -1,-2,-3,-4 and stand for when you guys talk about shift points? And i'm not sure if this is true, but I read that you can set it for 87,89,and 93. If I set the pp for 87 and put 93 init will it hurt my motor? or set it for 93 and put 87 in the tank?

The -1, -2 stuff is just for reference and they say it equals to about 100 rpm, but just for reference, you have to see if it shifts the way you like it at the rpm you like. You can only adjust tuning for 87 or 93 and you won't hurt it burning 93 in 87 tuning, just would be like throwing your money away though. It would hurt if you had the tuning set for 93 and you burned 87, especially if it was pinging allot.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon May 12, 2003 2:15 pm

HenryJ wrote: Did I get that excited when I got mine?

Glad there is another "believer" here

Well, now there is yet another believer, although my excitement is much more restrained than Paul's is! I got mine today and while all I did was add the 87 octane tuning and shift firmness during my lunch hour, I definately noticed a difference. The shifts are much nicer and over all the truck feels more responsive. I'm going to measure my tires tonight and do that part of the tuning next but so far, I like it!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon May 12, 2003 2:45 pm

Oh, and now that I've properly measured my tires, I can now say I'm really @#$%&*! to find out that my 9.5x30" tires only measure 28.25"!!! No wonder they fit with so much extra room!!!

dhawke · Post by **dhawke** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:49 am

Does anyone know if the Hypertech will work with my 03? I keep checking te listings for it wherever I can find it, but I have only seen that it would work with as late as the 02 model.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:08 am

It should. Here is the link I found to the 2003's on Hypertech's site:

LINK

made the looong addy a link-HJ

dhawke · Post by **dhawke** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:37 pm

Thanks. After I posted that question, I went to Hypertech's site and found the answer myself. I haven't seen anyone selling that model though. Guess I'll have to call the order in.

As soon as my accountant cuts loose the funds, I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions for this thread. Can anyone tell me how much their mileage changed? I need all the justification I can get.

Warnoffroad · Post by **Warnoffroad** » Sun May 18, 2003 6:19 pm

Whats the biggest tire and lowest gear ratio you can run with the PP?

Post by **HenryJ** » Sun May 18, 2003 6:55 pm

warnoffroad wrote:Whats the biggest tire and lowest gear ratio you can run with the PP?

Tire size up to 34" and gear ratio down to 4.56. If you need to adjust for deeper gears play with the tire size. (ie. 29" tires and 3.73 raito is the same as 31" tires and 4.11 ratio) I haven't calculated it exactly , but you get the idea?

Note: It will go no lower than 29" tires and 4.56 ratio, and 26" tires with a ratio of 4.10

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:39 pm

I will pick up my HPP II saturday. Can't wait.

Brad

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:42 pm

Brad wrote:I will pick up my HPP II saturday. Can't wait.

Brad

You'll like it. I've had mine for a while now. It made a nice difference in how my truck runs. Funny thing is, it seems to get even better the more I drive it. Has anyone else noticed that? It's like it learns how I drive and adds that on top of what the PP3 does.

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 6:41 pm

Is that different from an HPP III?

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:02 pm

quickbiker wrote:Is that different from an HPP III?

Ok, Ok. So I "misspelled" it! I meant to say "HPP III". Hey, it's been a long week at work!

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:18 pm

Is that different from the HPP II?

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:27 pm

quickbiker wrote:Is that different from the HPP II?

Uh, dunno.

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:50 pm

Picked up my HPP III Saturday. It works awsome. I programed on Sat. and deprogramed on Wed. I took my truck in for service. I put it back in on Thurs. Here are my settings.

87 power tune.

5800 redline.

110 speed rating.

31.5 tire ht.

firm shift.

1-2 +1

2-3 +1

3-4 0

Brad

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:55 pm

Wowzers. I see your settings are way different than mine. But that's what's nice about it, you program it for what you want. I got like -12 or somthing for 3-4 shift, and just a couple for 1-2 cause it was shifting late. You got 31.5" tires? Kewl, hope you enjoy it as much as me! You oughta try the 93 oct setting, I think it works great! Have fun!

Post by **HenryJ** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:19 pm

quickbiker wrote: You oughta try the 93 oct setting, I think it works great!

I'm on my second tank of 93 octane. It does make a difference. Not huge , but nice. In my case it seems to pull harder in the midrange. Mileage seems to have increased a little less than 1 mpg, making it less than error or conditions could correct for, so basically no change.

With the price of gas being so high I'll probably go back to the 87 powertuning for now, and to confirm any differences.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:48 pm

HenryJ wrote:
quickbiker wrote: You oughta try the 93 oct setting, I think it works great!
I'm on my second tank of 93 octane. It does make a difference. Not huge , but nice. In my case it seems to pull harder in the midrange. Mileage seems to have increased a little less than 1 mpg, making it less than error or conditions could correct for, so basically no change.

With the price of gas being so high I'll probably go back to the 87 powertuning for now, and to confirm any differences.

I did the same thing. Tried the 93 tuning. Fun but I couldn't tell any real improvement in mileage and got tired of paying the 20-30 cents more per gallon so I went back to the 87. Like I said before though, whatever tuning I use seems to get better after driving it a few hundred miles. It's like the computer learns on top of the initial tuning. Has anyone else experienced that or am I imagining things?

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:53 pm

Has anyone tried 89 octane with 93 tuning? Maybe it'll worky.

Warnoffroad · Post by **Warnoffroad** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:12 pm

Is 93 bad for our trucks? I just found out that chucks had a guy from super chips come over and reset my computer. I guess thats why I have a good amount of power with 4.11s and 35s. So I was wondering if I did get a PP would it mes up superchips settings or screw up any thing?

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:39 pm

quickbiker wrote:Has anyone tried 89 octane with 93 tuning? Maybe it'll worky.

Only if you like that spanish castanet music!

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:27 pm

GaryH wrote:
quickbiker wrote:Has anyone tried 89 octane with 93 tuning? Maybe it'll worky.

Only if you like that spanish castanet music!

Ha, I get enough of that here at home with the wifey! But I like the music.

Warnoffroad · Post by **Warnoffroad** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:47 pm

You must have found a peach. How did you get a PR to like off roading? Where do u find your girls?

quickbiker · Post by **quickbiker** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:23 pm

warnoffroad wrote:You must have found a peach. How did you get a PR to like off roading? Where do u find your girls?

haha, it's a secret. LOL. Just lucky I guess!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:26 pm

Yeah, Paul, where do you find them? Every girl I've known couldn't care less about cars or trucks, off roading, racing, you name it. My wife thinks a car is nothing but an appliance (like a toaster), good for nothing but point A to B tranportation! Unfortunately, she takes about as good a care of her car as she does the darned toaster!

The only way I'm going to get a lift kit is to keep whining until she gets tired of listening to me!

kwalsh · Post by **kwalsh** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:26 am

a group buy is in place at
http://mct.truckmoxie.com/
for $279.95 + $10.00(shipping)

I'm laying down the $$

this is an awesome price

Bluewasp · Post by **Bluewasp** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:06 am

I'm going to order the 30019 HPP for my 03. I need to keep up with everyone else on the autobahn!!!