Adding factory fog lights

Swbari00 · Post by **Swbari00** » Mon May 17, 2004 5:49 pm

anyone know if its is easy to put in the factory foglights if you didnt get them as an option?

Post by **HenryJ** » Mon May 17, 2004 7:01 pm

It may be a "real can of worms"

If the wiring is at the front to attach to the lights, that is the easy part. Adding a new switch panel for the light control would not be too bad, IF , the wiring is there.
BUT the "kicker" is if the BCM will control them.

The BCM (Body Control Module) contains a bi-polar latching relay. It's function is to allow the momentary switch to engage the fog lights, and the BCM shuts them off for highbeam operation.

All-in-all it seems like quite a bit of work, unless everything is already there.

The easiest/cheapest, "plan B" would be to get the lense and signal assy. then just wire them to your own switch.

2bunik · Post by **2bunik** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:13 pm

GO WITH PLAN B

Swbari00 · Post by **Swbari00** » Mon May 17, 2004 9:33 pm

there seems to be wiring for i guess foglights on the light switch panel, if so would that be easier? or still plan B. (and how much will the lens assy. cost?)

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue May 18, 2004 5:48 am

Swbari00 wrote:there seems to be wiring for i guess foglights on the light switch panel, if so would that be easier?...

There is also wiring for the rear hatch release and rear wiper , behind the panel to the left of the radio. But the wiring to the rear does not exist.
I guess what I am saying is that there may be some parts missing for it to operate (BCM programming, front harness, etc.) some parts will be obvious, others may be less obvious.

I am sure it can be done and it may be simpler than it appears. i just hate for it to "snowball" on you. for example , we know that you need the switch panel, signal assy w/fogs , how much more?

Swbari00 · Post by **Swbari00** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:57 pm

gotcha

thanks abunch

Post by **HenryJ** » Tue May 18, 2004 2:29 pm

Ok, now that I have you talked out of it.... why don't you do some investigating, see if the wiring is all there, gather up the lights and switch, and do the conversion. Then submit a "write-up" for the mods page

Swbari00 · Post by **Swbari00** » Tue May 18, 2004 9:05 pm

i think i will do just that. may be a while due to funds tho. but i can investigate for free

NTXCrew · Post by **NTXCrew** » Wed May 19, 2004 9:41 am

it would be fun to put in a OEM light panel that has the switch built in and use it inside regardless of which way you go...if that could work...

imo our fog lights aren't much to be envying...

Swbari00 · Post by **Swbari00** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:14 pm

yeah i would like the look of the factory switch. i also like the look of the factory lights, which is all i am really going for, not really how well they work

i guess maybe i could just put in clear lens in place of the amber ones...

BowtieZR5 · Post by **BowtieZR5** » Fri May 21, 2004 7:14 am

does anyone know how we can make the fog lights come on all the time with the lights without having to hit the dang button EVERY time?

NTXCrew · Post by **NTXCrew** » Fri May 21, 2004 10:59 am

that is annoying. my wife's pontiac grand am has a toggle switch that stays on or oof that makes them come on with the parking lights and the the headlights.

Retep · Post by **Retep** » Mon May 24, 2004 5:11 am

NTXCrew wrote:that is annoying. my wife's pontiac grand am has a toggle switch that stays on or oof that makes them come on with the parking lights and the the headlights.

Yes it is quite annoying to have to hit the flog light switch all the time

. I think I use my fog lights about 90% of the time the headlights are on. Our Grand Prix also has the toggle switch. Fog lights come on every time.

Pete

shrubs2000 · Post by **shrubs2000** » Wed May 26, 2004 3:47 am

Retep wrote:Our Grand Prix also has the toggle switch. Fog lights come on every time.

Pete

Are you on www.glubgp.com?

...we now return you to your regularly sheduled thread...

Forrest

Retep · Post by **Retep** » Wed May 26, 2004 4:54 am

shrubs2000 wrote:
Retep wrote:Our Grand Prix also has the toggle switch. Fog lights come on every time.

Pete
Are you on www.glubgp.com?

...we now return you to your regularly sheduled thread...

Forrest

I have lurked there many times. It is a great site. I think I will register.
I have seen a nice GTX from Bellbrook in the member pages there. Is that yours?

Pete

shrubs2000 · Post by **shrubs2000** » Thu May 27, 2004 2:25 am

I have lurked there many times. It is a great site. I think I will register. I have seen a nice GTX from Bellbrook in the member pages there. Is that yours?

No, I have a Bronze Metallic stock 03 GTP . I have mods planned it just takes time and $$ which I seem to have little of both at times.

Retep · Post by **Retep** » Thu May 27, 2004 5:17 am

shrubs2000 wrote:
I have lurked there many times. It is a great site. I think I will register. I have seen a nice GTX from Bellbrook in the member pages there. Is that yours?
No, I have a Bronze Metallic stock 03 GTP . I have mods planned it just takes time and $$ which I seem to have little of both at times.

Cool!

2001 GT 4 door Champaign Beige. Only mods so far and probably for some time to come are: Silverstars, K&N Drop in, and disabled DRL's. Going in for window tint in a couple weeks.
I wanted a GTP, but it is the wifes car and she didn't see the need for the extra ponies and $. Glad we didn't get one with gas prices the way they are and their requirement of premium gas.

Pete

Retep · Post by **Retep** » Thu May 27, 2004 5:25 am

Sorry, I guess Shrubs and I have gotten a little off topic.

Factory fog lights are nearly useless with stock bulbs, but they do look cool.
There, now we are back on topic

.

Pete

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu May 27, 2004 6:29 am

Retep wrote:Sorry, I guess Shrubs and I have gotten a little off topic.

Factory fog lights are nearly useless with stock bulbs, but they do look cool.
There, now we are back on topic .

Pete

Don't worry about getting off topic. I do it all the time! As far as the factory fog lamps go, they are about as useful as the old hood ornaments they put on cars years ago. Look cool but not good for anything else.

shrubs2000 · Post by **shrubs2000** » Thu May 27, 2004 9:42 am

Retep wrote:Sorry, I guess Shrubs and I have gotten a little off topic.

Factory fog lights are nearly useless with stock bulbs, but they do look cool.
There, now we are back on topic .

Pete

Where do you all put the fog lights? I have no place to put them on my 04. I have tow hooks where I think they should go. I looked into a Safarie Bar but I need a bed cover first.

GTP Stuff: We bought our GTP right after they releasesed the 04 style. Excellent rebates and they wanted to get this off their inventory. Traded in my 01 Impala. Intense racing is up in columbus so I may go up there this fall and have them put in a smaller pulley for me. I have to get a CAI, Ubend removal and colder plugs done first though.

Brad · Post by **Brad** » Thu May 27, 2004 6:27 pm

link not work.

Retep · Post by **Retep** » Fri May 28, 2004 4:50 am

Brad wrote:link not work.

Remove the ?

www.clubgp.com

Pete