2 inch spring block vs tb crank

RocK · Post by **RocK** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:59 pm

Spring blocks would be the same thing wouldn't they except they would not load the torsion bars as would cranking them up right? Taking that a step further couldn't you just swap in a taller spring and gain a more even load with the new rear springs. Just a thought... so far.

barch97 · Post by **barch97** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:04 pm

The issue with the torsion bars is not that the bars can't take the tension. I mean they're "torsion" bars, right? It's more about the angle of the half axles meeting the cv joints. So, while changing the size or position of the spring would take tension off the torsions bars, it would result in similar cv angle.

RocK · Post by **RocK** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:23 pm

Thats what I meant... in a round about way lol. I just dont want to load my bars with that much of a load. The springs would be taking the load and the cv angles would be roughly the same.

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:39 pm

WTF.

I have read these posts five times and still can't make sense of it.

Am I losing it? Are you guys just conspiring to double talk?

Spring blocks would have to be used on the rear , and would lower the rear.
This would have nothing to do with the torsion bars.
Taller springs is a term for coil springs and we don't have them anywhere, so I'm lost there again. Rear springs are mentioned and increased arch is what you need for a raise.

For the front it is nearly impossible to crank the torsion bars far enough to have CV problems and still be correctly aligned. There is just not enough adjustment to correct both the camber and caster.
Without installing longer upper a-arms I don't see any way to crank too far. (That is just me though)

I guess I'll just stay lost for this thread.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:47 pm

I dont think your lost HJ im thinking toe other 2 are

If what rocks thinkin its a leveling kit for coil over springs. Or maybe im lost also

bwenny247 · Post by **bwenny247** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:11 am

hmmmm.......i don't recall front springs......(runs outside to check)........nope

lol, HJ if you're lost count me in there with ya

barch97 · Post by **barch97** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:21 am

isn't there a spring (coil) above each of the front wheels?

I assumed Rock was speaking hypothetically about replacing that spring with a taller one or adding a "block" to make it longer.

I guess I was wrong. thanks for not piling on and becoming deliberately insulting.

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:29 am

HenryJ wrote:......................WTF. ............................

No conspiracy that I know of

If it started with anyone other than Rock, I would suspect it

I just had to sit back and scatch my head with the mixture of TBs and springs

Post by **HenryJ** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:41 am

That may be where the confusion lies.
2wd use coil springs in the front suspension. 4wd needs the room for the axleshaft (halfshaft) to drive the wheel so they use torsion bars instead.

There are such things as spacer blocks for coil springs. If they bolt to the frame, or a-arm they would be ok. If they are not attached , they tend to come out too easily.

Longer coil springs might be an option, but usually they just increase the springs coil diameter to create a stiffer, or higher spring rate. A stiffer ride is the biggest part of what you get with maybe a couple inches of z height.

Lifting a 2wd spindles and longer a-arms are the way to go. A small , budget lift can be done by stepping the a-arm.

jeggers · Post by **jeggers** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:47 am

second that wtf

top_sgt · Post by **top_sgt** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:49 am

third that wtf

RocK · Post by **RocK** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:57 am

Ok, Ok, my fingers were pounding before my mind was thinking... Barch that is exactly what i meant... All yall else... ya get a free one, laugh it up... I'll prolly never live it down.

Ill be crankin away next sunday...