new mods

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:05 pm

ok guys i have 2500 bucks to spend here for some mods what should i do!!

i need ideas

SomeCrew · Post by **SomeCrew** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:13 pm

tax return money?

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:30 pm

yeah personal and business

1337vending · Post by **1337vending** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:42 pm

Supercharger!!

Although I dont know about the emissions laws in Canada, its 49 state legal in the US (Blasted California emissions nazis).

Here's a link to the superchargersonline.com website with the 4.3 superchargers :
Link

Coincidentally they run about $2500...

This is the price quote thing they gave me, since they dont put prices on their website

You requested a price quotation for: Powerdyne Supercharger Kit for 2002-2003 GM S-10/S-15/Blazer/Jimmy with 4.3L (7 psi/satin)
Part Number: PD-K10528-101
SuperchargersOnline.com*: $2,449.00
List Price: $3554.26
You Save: $1105.26

coffeedrnkr · Post by **coffeedrnkr** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:44 pm

supercharger sounds good

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:08 am

ummm this is looking very tempting im liking it

ok i think im going to go for it

SomeCrew · Post by **SomeCrew** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:20 am

Yes, supercharger sounds like a superb idea!!!!

killian96ss · Post by **killian96ss** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:03 am

The Powerdyne for the S10 is a nice supercharger, but Powerdynes does have their problems. First, they do not use any sort of intercooler which is why they must run so much boost (7 psi) to get a 40-50% increase in power. This is ok, but everything will run hotter and will not be as efficient as a supercharger with an air/water or air/air intercooler. A similar supercharger with an intercooler and only 4-5 psi boost will make more power than the Powerdyne. The second problem is the need to rebuild the Powerdyne compressor after about 35-50k miles. This is partly due to the use of ceramic ball bearings. I still believe Powerdyne makes good superchargers, but it is also good to look at what Pro-Charger, Paxton offer.

Steve

1337vending · Post by **1337vending** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:39 am

I'm not sure, but do Pro-Charger and Paxton make superchargers for the 01-03 4.3 v6? The only other bolt-on supercharger I'm aware of is the one from Vortech, and it only fits 96-00 S10s. Please correct me if I'm wrong...the one you find might be 50 state legal

The only problem with running an external intercooler with the 4.3 v6 is that it would be a huge pain to route the intake plumbing. My dad has a 1992 Typhoon, which comes factory with an air-to-water intercooler, and the ducting to get to the intercooler and back to the turbo is fairly complex. That truck runs 15psi of boost and pretty much blows most other cars away at the stoplight...5.09 seconds to 60 measured with his accelerometer

My dad's 85 Buick Grand national also runs 15 psi of boost without an intercooler, but that's because the compression ratio is fairly low. (~8.25:1) IIRC. I can't remember what the compression ratio on our trucks are, but I think its below 10 or 9.5:1. If so, I think the 4.3 could handle 7 psi of boost with proper computer reflashing. I haven't heard about the bearing problems at 35-50k miles though =/...

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:56 am

thanks for your help guys im looking into it and i will see what i can find

killian96ss · Post by **killian96ss** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:32 am

1337vending wrote:I'm not sure, but do Pro-Charger and Paxton make superchargers for the 01-03 4.3 v6? The only other bolt-on supercharger I'm aware of is the one from Vortech, and it only fits 96-00 S10s. Please correct me if I'm wrong...the one you find might be 50 state legal

Doh, I forgot about Vortech

.You might be right about the application years with the other manufacturers.

I have found this same problem when trying to find a good supercharger for my SS. There are companies however that can install other superchargers, and still make them 50 state smog legal. There are a few guys in our club running Pro-Chargers on their Impala's and they aren't having and problems passing CA smog.

The only problem with running an external intercooler with the 4.3 v6 is that it would be a huge pain to route the intake plumbing.

This is true. Everything is very tight on the CC's. This might mean a custom install.

My dad has a 1992 Typhoon, which comes factory with an air-to-water intercooler, and the ducting to get to the intercooler and back to the turbo is fairly complex. That truck runs 15psi of boost and pretty much blows most other cars away at the stoplight...5.09 seconds to 60 measured with his accelerometer

My dad's 85 Buick Grand national also runs 15 psi of boost without an intercooler, but that's because the compression ratio is fairly low. (~8.25:1) IIRC.

Your Dad has a Typhoon and a Grand National!

How lucky is that?

Those are both very cool vehicles.

I have always wanted a Grand National (those things rock with very little mods).

I can't remember what the compression ratio on our trucks are, but I think its below 10 or 9.5:1. If so, I think the 4.3 could handle 7 psi of boost with proper computer reflashing.

It is 9.2:1 and yes it can handle 7 psi, but that is alot for the amount of power you are getting compared to an intercooled design.

I haven't heard about the bearing problems at 35-50k miles though =/...

It is actually very common on F-body's and B-body's with the Powerdyne setup. Maybe the V-6 version will last a little longer because they are nowhere near as powerful.

The nice thing about the Powerdyne setup is that when the bearings do fail all you have to do is take off the blower belt and the truck will still run good enough to get you home.

Some designs run a single belt and when they fail, well your not going anywhere soon.

Steve

jeggers · Post by **jeggers** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:56 pm

supercharger

go for it

a2b · Post by **a2b** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:22 am

double triangulated 4 linked front and rear with prorock 60's with 35 splined chromos with front and rear arb's and an atlas. 40"mtrs.

oh and better cut off all your fenders. at least thats the free part

coffeedrnkr · Post by **coffeedrnkr** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:25 am

I definately think that would total over 2500 bucks

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:22 am

yeah only thing i just relized its american bucks darnit :S

a2b · Post by **a2b** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:02 pm

coffeedrnkr wrote:I definately think that would total over 2500 bucks

ya, about 7to10 grand if you do the work yourself. 14 grand if you paid for new stuff and labor

camelott112 · Post by **camelott112** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:36 am

MAGNA! nice setup...look into it

gocntry · Post by **gocntry** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:18 am

Here's A Place That Does Superchargers (Intercooled), Turbochargers, And Engine Packages......

ENGINES

ATI PROCHARGER

TURBOCHARGER KIT

Of Course The 4.3L Engine Kits Run Up To Almost $7000.00 With Engine & Head Packages, The Intercooles Supercharger Kit Is $4395.00 And The Turbo Charger Kit Is $5995.00.

But Hey It's Only Money

2bunik · Post by **2bunik** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:04 pm

bubaloo1983

REMEMBER what happen to the last memebr that went in the same direction your heading...

He then sold the truck..

bubaloo1983 · Post by **bubaloo1983** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:26 pm

lol ya thats true. ive looke dinto it to too and i cant get it for what i have so i think the charger is out. all the availabity is in the US so when i have 2500 canadian to get something from teh us it doesnt work to well lol

i want be selling the truck till its at least paid off