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Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:51 am**

Just found these photos on the web of my uncle on the old NY raceways. The whole family was involved in racing at one time. Al "suicide" Sanders

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:57 am**

Cool heritage, Brian!

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:05 am**

When I tell people I have worked on cars since before I could see over a bumper I was telling the real story. It wasn't unusual to have an engine swap going on in the garage on a weekend and have engines hanging from trees at holiday party's at Al's house. Most of those cars and my uncle as well are still right there. I remember playing in them as a kid.

The 6 foot steering column in the one pictured there looked a mile long when I was only a kid.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:36 pm**

Great Post

I love stock car racing. NASCAR is noting like it use to be. It is so commercialized; I love a small town track one on one. I saw an open wheel super modified race in Richmond on a Friday night before the NASCAR night race. They only ran 20 laps but it was small town boys running a small town race. I enjoyed it more than the big event.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:45 pm**

The stories I have from the family are great. During those days the race gas was dolled out in 10 gallon jerry cans that were hauled back to each pit by the crew. My dad and uncles would carry two cans to the pumps and as they walked back to the pit would put one can over the pit wall where they would pick up an empty can and continue on to the pit to fill the race car. Outside the pit other family members would be filling the street cars with the race gas.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:13 pm**

Just one question when, you have all that expertise.

Why would you twist off your wheel studs and not use a torque wrench?

I am glad you have a sense of humor and live a few hrs away

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:28 pm**

Having knowledge and using it are two different things. Same with tools, while I have the skills and extensive collection of standard tools until 5 years ago I was without a garage to work in so I didn't have a lot of specialized tools in my kit. When I upgraded to a full kit of 1/2 sockets as well as the 3/8th I had been using I gained a thing called leverage, I then found that the torque wrench became a needed tool as opposed to a luxury. Now my kit includes O2 sensor wrenches, short finders,scan tools ect. The ultimate lottery prize would be to win the complete set of Craftsman's mechanics tools.

Besides how was I too know the studs were so darn easy to break.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:40 pm**

Mapquest says you are 15hours 53 minutes from me. If I was motivated I could make it in a looong day or a short weekend.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:43 pm**

04crewvt wrote: Besides how was I too know the studs were so darn easy to break.

All my work has been outside too. It's a pain but, I have a long range plan to solve it. I might not have hot water and a floor drain in the garage but, I'll have concrete and the weather held at bay if, things work out.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:06 pm**

More photos I found on the net.More photos of Al's cars

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:42 pm**

04crewvt wrote:Mapquest says you are 15hours 53 minutes from me. If I was motivated I could make it in a looong day or a short weekend.

C'mon down

It is merely 110 miles round trip to get a beer but, I'll buy the first case

Still awesome pics

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:53 pm**

You get the beer, I'll get the tequila and lime and we will see what kind of trouble we can get into.

We can wire up your truck with a state of the art video system with stealth technology thrown in for fun. How do you go about making a bright yellow CC invisible?

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:11 pm**

LIME? We don't need no stinkin' lime or salt! Hasn't anyone taught you to put that stuff in the freezer?

It smooths out under 25 degrees and besides.......I never could remember the routine when Quervo, salt and lime came into play

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:16 pm**

Never have tried it frozen sounds like a plan. Besides isn't the routine you drink the tequila, use the lime to freshen your breath and you salt your buddy's beer when he isn't looking?

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:20 pm**

04crewvt wrote:Never have tried it frozen sounds like a plan. Besides isn't the routine you drink the tequila, use the lime to freshen your breath and you salt your buddy's beer when he isn't looking?

Brian, I haven't seen that stuff freeze yet in consumer grade freezers

Maybe we can MOD one to make it happen. :hehe:

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:26 pm**

Tequila snow cones on a hot summer day. We could use liquid nitrogen, that should freeze it solid then we could shave it with an ice shaver. Might have to wait for it to warm up a bit before drinking though.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:35 pm**

Ice Shaver? I guess I am too far away from my MI roots to remember what they are or what they look like.

But, then I am too far from a lot of things

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:42 pm**

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:48 pm**

Duh......Thanks, Brian

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:53 pm**

Quervo Gold straight up. Salt and Lime just slows the process down. I acquired a taste for Tequila in my younger days along with and acquired taste for Bacardi rum and Sam Adams

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:55 pm**

BADs Crew wrote:Quervo Gold straight up. Salt and Lime just slows the process down. I acquired a taste for Tequila in my younger days along with and acquired taste for Bacardi rum and Sam Adams

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:58 pm**

Notice how when you bring up rednecks sooner or later you get into a drinking contest?

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:00 pm**

BTW we have two Brian's in this post. Thats the B in BADs Crew.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:04 pm**

04crewvt wrote:Notice how when you bring up rednecks sooner or later you get into a drinking contest?

I didn't detect a contest but, I'd be a fool to compete with you anyway

I got all of that training that considers body weight and alcohol mathematics and it all spells I'd lose

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Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:10 pm**

BADs Crew wrote:BTW we have two Brian's in this post. Thats the B in BADs Crew.

I have wanted to ask and I thought you posted it once but, was afraid to make a social blunder. Thanks, Brian

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:12 pm**

Hey lets face it the roots of stock car racing was based in the old moonshine runners, we are proudly carrying on a fine tradition when we speak of rednecks/stock cars and liquor in the same topic.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:23 pm**

04crewvt wrote:Hey lets face it the roots of stock car racing was based in the old moonshine runners, we are proudly carrying on a fine tradition when we speak of rednecks/stock cars and liquor in the same topic.

A 3 day weekend at a NASCAR race with my 3 friends always included 8 cases of beer, a large bottle of Bacardi, a bottle of Quervo Gold, 20 lbs of steamed shrimp, a whole lot of $1 bills and a big bottle of aspirin.

Posted: **Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:54 am**

Hey! That sounds pretty good as long as no bail bonds are needed and everybody had fun. I have never been to a race myself seems a little to sterilized and commercialized for me especially when you see the type of cars the family used to run, the good old fashioned STOCK CARS with very few if any limits on what you could get away with.

Posted: **Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:55 am**

I think BadsCrew and I hang out with the same people!!!

Mention of alcohol & rednecks, and I wasn't included..

f9k9--No need to make 110 mi trip here--I keep a 16 gallon keg in my beermeister refridge in basement at all times, or there's a small store less than 1/4 mile away.

Posted: **Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:16 am**

WVHogRider wrote:.............. f9k9--No need to make 110 mi trip here--I keep a 16 gallon keg in my beermeister refridge in basement at all times, or there's a small store less than 1/4 mile away.

I grew up in that environment

Much of KY voted dry when the men were off fighting the AXIS in WWII. I bet there were some POed Vets when they got home

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