Benz

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:21 am

Split topic-HJ

malkavian wrote:holding my breath 31's 31's

I was holding my breath. Then along comes another toy I just had to have:

(This isn't the pic of my car but another one just like it - unfortunately, mine doesn't look quite this good)

Sorry HJ, but I couldn't resist. I've always wanted an old Benz to tinker with and fix up. At least this one is close enough to running and driveable that I may still have enough cash left over to buy into whatever it is you are planning. Depends on how long it takes you to get it together.

barch97 · Post by **barch97** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:27 pm

Rusty wrote:I was holding my breath. Then along comes another toy I just had to have:

(This isn't the pic of my car but another one just like it - unfortunately, mine doesn't look quite this good)

Sorry HJ, but I couldn't resist. I've always wanted an old Benz to tinker with and fix up. At least this one is close enough to running and driveable that I may still have enough cash left over to buy into whatever it is you are planning. Depends on how long it takes you to get it together.

needs fender flares?

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:52 pm

barch97 wrote:This isn't the pic of my car but another one just like it...needs fender flares?

Just say it's not diesel

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:42 pm

HenryJ wrote:Just say it's not diesel

Uh, 300SD?

I mean, I would have really liked to find a 450SEL 6.9 but they're a bit scarce and horribly expensive! And with the cost of gas going through the roof, 26mpg sounds pretty good to me!

Back to the subject though. (Hey, I try!) Are you still working on the "mystery lift"?

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:43 pm

Rusty wrote:
Uh, 300SD?

Oh, the horrors

I still have nightmares about trying to patch together one of those for a friend

I really wish that I could have talked him into putting the small block Chevrolet in there. It would have been a much more pleasurable driver.
As far as I know it died again. Injector pump woes, I believe.

still working on the "mystery lift"?

Back in business

moving forward

snocat1 · Post by **snocat1** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:20 pm

Hey Rusty are you going to lift that old mercedes?

I think would be pretty

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:46 pm

HenryJ wrote:As far as I know it died again. Injector pump woes, I believe.

Hmm, strange. Everyone I've talked to on some of the Benz forums and a few I've known over the years who actually had the diesel cars never had any problems with them. I've had several people tell me injector pumps rarely ever fail. One thing everyone says though is a Mercedes can be very reliable and last a long time if they are well maintained. If you don't take care of them, they will bite you in the tail (and the wallet) really quick.

The car I have was one owner and taken very good care of and was garage kept most of it's life. The car didn't die, the owner did (old age). I got it from a friend who picked it up in the estate sale 12 years ago and then left it sitting out in his back lot for all that time. Tree sap and leaves, rain, etc, made quite a mess out of the body and paint but the rust is very minor and it's all repairable. I haven't got it running yet but the motor turns over good and sounds like it's got good compression. Need to flush out the 12 year old crap in the tank, if there is anything in the tank. I only paid $300 for it so if nothing else, I can certainly get my money back easy enough. Probably sell the stock alloy wheels alone for that.

Oh, and snocat1, No I'm not gonna lift it!

By the way, it will never be a daily driver. Just a "tinker toy".

snocat1 · Post by **snocat1** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:10 pm

What year is the Benz?

Post by **HenryJ** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:10 pm

I was quite a while ago and WAY less than adequately maintained. The first problem was the vacuum pump, followed closely by a botched head replacement after a valve job. Timing was messed up , it took weeks to sort it out to the point it would run and blacken the whole shop

Never was right IMO. The poor old boy was a backyard mechanic, and really didn't have the funds to fix things right.

Thanks for the memories

1337vending · Post by **1337vending** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:36 pm

Heh, my driving instructor when I had to get my learners permit had a mercedes diesel that looked about like yours. Might have been an 80s model... That thing was absolutely gutless! It made my dad's '85 Chevy Silverado 6.2L Diesel(Crew Cab oddly enough) feel like a freakin Corvette....I hope yours is faster than the one I drove

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:22 am

It's a '79 and yes, it's a Turbo Diesel. While not exactly Corvette like in acceleration, it will outrun my VW Bus so I think I can live with it!

Stock, they usually do 0-60 in 14-16 seconds. This is an "S-Class". Think "Luxury Cruiser", not race car.

Somewhere, I found some links to videos of some diesel Mercedes these guys in Finland modded. They were putting out between 430-450 horsepower and show some of these cars doing some pretty impressive stuff. Anyone remember the video of the F350 Diesel posted here a while back that was running mid 11's? A Diesel will run if you put some work in it. I don't know how to do it (yet) but I can adjust the boost and crank up the injection and get this thing below 10 second 0-60. A bunch of guys on the Benz forums have done it. Plus, my next door neighbor knows how to do propane conversions on Diesels. Just like adding nitrous. I just need to get it running first, before I start playing with it.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:50 am

Found the link:

http://mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13577

They list the power output of one of them at 430hp at the rear tires using the same type motor I have in mine (3.0L, 5cyl Turbo Diesel). Ricers beware!

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:45 pm

Rusty wrote:It's a '79 and yes, it's a Turbo Diesel. While not exactly Corvette like in acceleration, it will outrun my VW Bus so I think I can live with it! Stock, they usually do 0-60 in 14-16 seconds. This is an "S-Class". Think "Luxury Cruiser", not race car.

Welcome to the slow world of German luxury cars. In the forum for my wife's Audi A6 the cars are affectionately known as "Flying Pigs"

Oh yes her other car is a Corvette

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:51 pm

Jim wrote:Welcome to the slow world of German luxury cars. In the forum for my wife's Audi A6 the cars are affectionately known as "Flying Pigs"

They're not all slow. I knew someone who had a 450SEL 6.9 and that thing would really move for it's size and weight. They've been known to dust Porsches on the Autobahn! I'd love to have one but 6.9's are a mechanical nightmare to keep up with.

kf6kmx · Post by **kf6kmx** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:39 am

Rusty wrote:
Jim wrote:Welcome to the slow world of German luxury cars. In the forum for my wife's Audi A6 the cars are affectionately known as "Flying Pigs"
They're not all slow. I knew someone who had a 450SEL 6.9 and that thing would really move for it's size and weight. They've been known to dust Porsches on the Autobahn! I'd love to have one but 6.9's are a mechanical nightmare to keep up with.

Some of them do that regularly.. They get out-accelerated by the Porsche, but after the mementum builds up, lookout!

Ever seen the video of the staged dragrace between a fighter jet, car, and moptorcycle? The cycle leaves everything including the jet in its dust (very low weight for the power = fast off the line), but the jet (by far the heaviest thing there) builds up its momentum oand 'flys' by everyone

Speed challenge

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:01 am

kf6kmx wrote:Ever seen the video of the staged dragrace between a fighter jet, car, and moptorcycle? The cycle leaves everything including the jet in its dust (very low weight for the power = fast off the line), but the jet (by far the heaviest thing there) builds up its momentum oand 'flys' by everyone

Speed challenge

Cool!

Here's a video that shows a couple of Diesel Mercedes (along with a whole lot of other stuff - huge video) at a dragrace in Finland. One of the Diesels beat a Corvette (although with all the black smoke, it's hard to tell)!

WARNING! 39.4mb download!
http://students.tukkk.fi/tuukka.simonen ... y_2005.wmv

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:09 pm

Got it running! It sounds like hell right now (not sure what's wrong yet) but drives really nice! I'm hoping it's something like water pump or alternator bearings. If it turns out to be timing chain (and with my luck, it will be), I have a LOT of work ahead of me.

Not bad for $300 from a junkyard! A little body work and paint and some minor interior work and it will be a nice ride!

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:25 pm

3 Words ........ PIMP MY RIDE

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:29 pm

Oh if you see a Porsche 911 there that they want to unload for a few hundred let me know

snocat1 · Post by **snocat1** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:32 pm

I'm thinking monster garage

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:32 pm

BADs Crew wrote:3 Words ........ PIMP MY RIDE

Actually, I was thinking

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:37 pm

BADs Crew wrote:Oh if you see a Porsche 911 there that they want to unload for a few hundred let me know

I'll keep a watch. I know "Uncle Ed" has an old Hearse back there! A few airplanes too (or what's left of them). This is really the wierdest junkyard I've ever seen!

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:58 pm

There is a Limo Company near here that rents a Hearse. Something to use for the bachelor party

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:43 pm

BADs Crew wrote:There is a Limo Company near here that rents a Hearse. Something to use for the bachelor party

Just thinking of the possibilities!