Question about Bilstein shocks
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Question about Bilstein shocks
Why do the Bilstein shocks for our Z85 suspension mount with the boot on the bottom? On the ZR2 they mount boot end up.
I will be getting a set of these (soon I hope), and would prefer to have the boot at the top. Could they be mounted that way? Would ZR2 Bilstein's fit?
Just curious.
Thanks Jim for the use of your picture
Pete
I will be getting a set of these (soon I hope), and would prefer to have the boot at the top. Could they be mounted that way? Would ZR2 Bilstein's fit?
Just curious.
Thanks Jim for the use of your picture
Pete
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It's a flat 2 bolt bracket at the top and a single bolt and nut at the bottom that goes through. I've never looked close at the ZR2 shocks, so I'm not sure of the difference. Maybe the ZR2's shock mounts are different?
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The stock ZR2 shocks have the shield and piston rod at the top , probably because GM specified them to be that way.
The aftermarket shocks have convoluted boots and ...
Personally I wish all four were inverted, but the fronts are piston-up, probably for upper a-arm clearance?
The aftermarket shocks have convoluted boots and ...
I am pretty sure you should not try running them reversed. They are designed to be run one way only. However they are gas charged so it may be possible , though not recommended, to run them reversed.HenryJ wrote:The rocks kicked up by the front tires tend to bounce off the boots rather than denting the body of a regular shock. And what little dirt that does get inside the boots doesn't settle on the seals so they tend to last longer.
Personally I wish all four were inverted, but the fronts are piston-up, probably for upper a-arm clearance?
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Thanks for the info guys!
I will stick with the Bilstein's specific to our susp. and mount as designed.
Pete
I will stick with the Bilstein's specific to our susp. and mount as designed.
Pete
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HenryJ wrote:
Personally I wish all four were inverted, but the fronts are piston-up, probably for upper a-arm clearance?
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Jim you are the detail GOD "I am not worthy"
(Wish you were closer, I'd love to learn from the master )
(Wish you were closer, I'd love to learn from the master )
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I must agree! I sure would like to get the dirty side of my truck that clean again. I am not sure I would have the patience though....HenryJ wrote:Jim you are the detail GOD "I am not worthy"
(Wish you were closer, I'd love to learn from the master )
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I stay confused as most of you know. SO, is the boot "down"" on the rears of CCs?
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For the aftermarket heavy duty Bilsteins, Yes.f9k9 wrote:I stay confused as most of you know. SO, is the boot "down"" on the rears of CCs?
I like them better inverted for many reasons- Bilstein shocks
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Hmmmmm.
Step back into the the past........maybe just back to 1997. A ZR2 came with Bilstiens that had the rod (metal sleeve covered) upwards.
Bilstiens were all metal and without "boots".
The rod part had a metal sleeve and not a boot. Did they redesign the entire shock when they did away with the old fashioned sleeve?
If the boot is down on the rear and on the top on the front of our CCs then maybe a good way to explain their installation is just to make sure that you can read the shock's lettering from the upright position.
That has to be too simple to be correct. I noticed in my installation that you could read the shocks when boot up in front and boot down in the rear.
Step back into the the past........maybe just back to 1997. A ZR2 came with Bilstiens that had the rod (metal sleeve covered) upwards.
Bilstiens were all metal and without "boots".
The rod part had a metal sleeve and not a boot. Did they redesign the entire shock when they did away with the old fashioned sleeve?
If the boot is down on the rear and on the top on the front of our CCs then maybe a good way to explain their installation is just to make sure that you can read the shock's lettering from the upright position.
That has to be too simple to be correct. I noticed in my installation that you could read the shocks when boot up in front and boot down in the rear.
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Shock boots...
My Bilstiens have the boots on the top......Is this a bad thing?
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KC! You are the suspension man to follow! Asking mortal questions like mine are unworthy of your rank.......lol
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It is just the "heavy duty" rear Bilsteins that are inverted
OEM bilsteins are not, as well as other models.HenryJ wrote:Refering to inverted shocks with convoluted boots:
The rocks kicked up by the front tires tend to bounce off the boots rather than denting the body of a regular shock. And what little dirt that does get inside the boots doesn't settle on the seals so they tend to last longer.
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THanks for the info...
Thanks for the information Henry, I was thinking that my shocks were imposters.......
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