Hey Fellas...Got Some Q's about lifts

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OK, I have been searching for lifts for a while now and the general answer is "except ZR-5". I see most of you like the SL line and have the six stacked up under your beasts. My question is... OK it obviously works in the ZR-5 Sonoma, buuuutttttt what mods does it take. A place to do it and the tools are not a problem, I just want to make sure i get the right kit I guess.

I have right around 3g's to throw at this pavement hugger to get it standin taller than me. I have the 3.73's and I am intending on 31's or 32's (yes I have read the info on tire sizes) but that's not a big deal to me...I got the 10%over cost +tax hookup. So if yall don't mind giving me some input on the SL kit and my truck I would be mighty obliged.

There isn't many places to go off-road here in MN, so I think I will just make my own roads. lord knows its hard enough just to find anybody up here that knows runnin water aint just for the rich folk, let alone find someone who says yeah lets go wheelin'. Anyway... I started rantin.
....Anybody live in MN...... LOL

I am from IL and moved to TX for a while and did the ARMY thing down there where North Fort Hood has some of the best trails I have ever driven on. I had a 99 S-10 (2X4 with a 4 banger) and was amazed at the capabilities of the little truck. Oh yeah, I got stories... like 5 feet of air and 3 to 6 foot water crossings. Any way a family meant four doors and the ZR-5 was the comprimise. :)

Man, can I blab?

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Re: Hey Fellas...Got Some Q's about lifts

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RocK wrote:...been searching for lifts for a while now and the general answer is "except ZR-5"...
I think it is "...except ZR2"
The RPO ZR5 option is merely an appearance package. Cosmetics only, nothing that will effect the suspension.

Consensus at this point seems to be that the F.I.T. 6" Superlift is the suspension lift to get. A search for Superlift should yield tons of answers.

Welcome :wave:

Oh, and add a few bucks to that cash you have for the 4.10 gears if you want to run the 32's.

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RocK wrote:I am from IL and moved to TX for a while and did the ARMY thing down there where North Fort Hood has some of the best trails I have ever driven on.
Lived in Texas for a while, Huh? Well, THAT would explain that "southern accent" I detected in your message! I know noboby from MN or IL talks like that! :lol:

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Rock :wave: wlelcome!

The lift that you are going to want is slf776, Jeggers has a zr5 and he just did his install. That's who you want to talk to! There are different lift packages, for instance my lift came with the upgraded bilstien shocks but no skid plate part#slf3144 or steering stabilizer shock part#slf92055. Another thing to concider also is a body lift. Superlift suggest 33,s I went with 31,s and am starting to have tire rubbing issues on the back of the front fender when turning into driveways or dips. So know I need to do a
BL. Other then that it's a great lift, It keeps your ride the same as stock.
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sl kit fit my zr5 just fine. I am running 32" tires and i could use gears but i am out of funds :cry:
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so far so good my torsion bars are a little high waiting to see if they settle, but truck rides great. oh and i haven't hooked up the front drive shaft so have not been off road yet.
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nice looking truck to jeg ;)
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thanks man :D
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Rock

Heres a link for a picture of the sl6 link

It seems Summit has the best price right now for the complete lift skid plate and all.


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how tall are your guys trucks? i would be curious to see what the difference is from mine to yours :)
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Bubaloo

Here are the heights specs on my truck. Back bumper from ground to bottom of bumper 24 inches. Rear wheel well, from ground to top of wheel well 40 1/2 inches. Front wheel well, from ground to top of wheel well 40 1/2 inches. Front bumper, from ground to bottom of bumper 28 inches. Remember I do not have a body lift and it does seem like my truck has settled a half inch or so since I got my lift installed.


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im going to compare it tomine tommorw :) yah if you got a body lift that thing would be huge. it already looks as tall as mine with jus tthe SL kit hehe 8)
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Rock, I got my kit from summit it was a good price, but they don't stock it so get it drop shipped from superlift, and I would have them call superlift to get you a good time frame. before you wait three months like me. :cry:
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bubaloo1983
I will have to measure it this weekend :D
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Thanks for all the input fellas. I was really getting frustrated with the stuff like this...
http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/GM_S10_4wd.htm
where at the top it says "will not fit... shocks not included." ??

Anyway my local bumper to bumper (parts store) quoted me 2100 for skids, kit and shocks. Did yall have to pay shipping on the summit order or just the 9.00 handling?

By the way I do have one of the most messed up accents anybody has ever heard. I have the TX draw and the MN " o " thing and they just kinda go together. LOL you should hear people up here make fun. Oh well I usually just fall back on the new concept of electricity and they get real quiet.

Anyway I knew that the ZR-5 Package was just appearence and that is the main reason for my confusion. (See what I mean about rambling) But seriously thanks for all the help fellas I will get some pics, but at the moment she is stock and I think yall know what that looks like.
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it will fit and no shipping
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Question for the Yello Hammer.....

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What is the lift on that thing (Its a 2, I know).
But that is what I am gunnin for. How bad does
it rub? Does it rub? :D

Mind if I get some specs?
Or if anybody else knows....Please don't say stock
with bigger tires.

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hey jeg what was your measurements at the mirror? bottom
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hmmmmm. I did measure it but i have forgotten. give me some time and i will get lots of info. I work in hvac and when it gets warm i get really busy.
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Rock wrote:What is the lift on that thing (Its a 2, I know).
It has the 2" Superlift, 2" PA bodylift, and fender cut-outs. The wheels are Cragar 397s 16X8 with 5" of backspacing and 33X11.50 mud tires (not sure what kind).
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I got a 6" SL, 2" BL, Shackles, and Tbar Keys with 35" tires. My front bumper is 29" off the ground and the rear is 31" off the ground.
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53" to bottom of the mirror, the rear bumper is at 26"(did not install the new brackets with pa bl), the front is at 23" to bottom of valance.
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i'm also about 53 1/4" to the bottom of my mirrors with a 6in superlift and 2 in body lift....i finally got off my lazy butt and got the body lift on last week so now i'm happy and i don't rub any more. i was also able to crank the torsion back down so the truck is setting level instead of nose high. oh also i've got 6,000 miles on the superlift now and no trouble yet.
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wow i guess tires really do make a difference, and the t bar crank and shackles. im 3 inches taller then you guys muhahahah 8) but your trucks look better :) hey somecrew whats your emasurment to your mirror. i havent measured my bumbers but my back end is wayyyyyyyyyy in the air because of my shackles, some crwes is too hehe
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Yes, them shackles really do make a difference. They put a nice rake to the truck. I have no idea what the measurment is to my mirrors, I will have to check for you tomorrow or something. Or you can just measure from the bottom of your cab to the mirrors, and add 30", and that is what mine is.
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Wow! I just went out and measured to the bottom of my mirror 52".
no BL, no TB crank, no shackels. just a 6"sl and 31" tires.

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Im at 47 1/4 to the bottom of the mirror with TB crank ,BL and 30s

to bottom of rear bumper is 21 1/4

front to bottom of valance is 18
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steve yours is pretty tall for what you got! :D hey jeff any plans to do any more to our truck in terms of lifts?
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yeah hopefully by the end of the year, kinda like to see 1 lifted
measure your ground clearance from the ground to the bottom of your rear diff. cover and the front diff. I wanna know if you picked up much ground clearance.
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at the rear diff i have 11 inches of clearence. at the front at the lowest point ( my skid plate) i have 15 inches, and for the middle of the truck at the lowest point ( t bar drop bracketry ( with relocators though) i have 17 inches of clearence.
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Thats what I wanted to know .Wanted to make sure $1700.00 is worth the money not just to run larger tires I want ground clearance.11in to the lowest point puts your truck at the same clearance aas a stock toyota.
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Jeff024 wrote:kinda like to see 1 lifted
That is awfully tempting for me to post another picture :lol:

Jeff024 wrote:measure your ground clearance from the ground to the bottom of your rear diff
thanks for asking that question, went out to measure and noticed a slight amount of gear oil at the bottom of my differential. I was like, "what the heck?" so I backed it up on some ramps and started checking bolt tightness, found two bolts that were a full turn loose, two bolts that were a half turn loose and the rest were about 1/4 turn loose. Anyways, got them tightened up, hope that stops the leak. Oh and by the way don't want to dissapoint you but I did measure to the bottom of my differential 9 1/4 inches. :(

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thats what I was worried about 1 1/4in. for over 1700.00 .I will have to think long and hard about it now allthough I would run 33s .
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im at the ground clearnce i am because of tires. but my next tire will be a 33 0r maybe even a 32. however my ground clearence at the front and middle are pretty good. 17 inches in the middle is alot and i could have more to i havent used the relocators to there full potential yet. when i go wheeling i never bottom out. and i have never hit any of the diffs. my skidz take all the abuse up front though :)

yah 1700 bucks is alot for only 1 more inch or so at the diff but diff clearence is only based on tire size. when you do the lift then do some relocators you get alot of clearence under there. so its not all bad :P and in terms of dollars if your only spending 1700 consider yourself lucky where i live our lifts are about 5 grand install through a supplier. the new superlift here is like 4 tousand something for just the kit at one of our local shops
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Finally measured from my mirrors to the ground. 57" from the bottom of my mirror to the ground. MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
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noooo! im shorter then you lol.


thats it i iwll be bigger soon.... :D
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bubaloo, can you post some pics of the relocators , you keep talk'n about them but I have never seen them. :D
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jeggers wrote:... can you post some pics of the relocators...
Check out Quickbiker's website- T-bar relocators link - my install

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Jeggers, you have Tbar relocaters, it came with your lift kit. Its the brackets you bolted to the frame under the driver and passenger door that say superlift in chrome. Quite sleek and sexy if you ask me.
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SomeCrew wrote:Jeggers, you have Tbar relocaters, it came with your lift kit. Its the brackets you bolted to the frame under the driver and passenger door that say superlift in chrome. ...
Better check the above links.
What you are refering to is the drop brackets for the t-bar crossmember.
Relocators raise this back up. Check the "link" above.
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ooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo.........

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Check out Quickbiker's website- T-bar relocators link - my install
been there seen that. i was just hoping some one would make it look easy[/quote]
2001 cc 2" pa body lift traded
2004 cc zr5 2" pa body lift 6" super lift 2" rear shackle and tb crank traded for a v-max Silverado
2006 V-max cc
2001 ex cab 4x4 ls work truck rufff country 2" lift sold
2012 silverado WT 2wd