check engine light/ Leaking Gas Tank

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:40 pm

check engine light came on with code P0442 anyone know what it is?

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:05 pm

EVAPORATIVE EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM LEAK DETECTED (SMALL LEAK). LET ME RESEARCH FURTHER'''''sorry for the caps

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:11 pm

Check your gas cap first off

DTC P0442
Description
The evaporative emission (EVAP) small leak test applies vacuum to the EVAP system and monitors vacuum decay. The control module monitors the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor signal in order to determine the vacuum decay rate. At an appropriate time, the control module turns the EVAP canister purge valve ON, open, and the EVAP vent valve ON, closed. This allows the engine to draw a vacuum on the EVAP system. At a calibrated time, or vacuum level, the control module turns the purge valve OFF, closed, sealing the system, and monitors the FTP sensor input in order to determine EVAP system vacuum decay. If the system detects a leak larger than a calibrated amount, DTC P0442 will set.

Conditions for Running the DTC
DTCs P0107, P0108, P0112, P0113, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0443, P0449, P0452, P0453, P1112, P1114, P1115, P1121, or P1122 are not set.
The ignition voltage is between 10-18 volts.
The barometric pressure (BARO) is more than 75 kPa.
The fuel level is between 15-85 percent.
The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is between 4-30°C (39-86°F).
The intake air temperature (IAT) is between 4-30°C (39-86°F).
The start-up ECT and IAT are within 9°C (16°F) of each other.
The vehicle speed sensor (VSS) is less than 121 km/h (75 mph).

Post by **HenryJ** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:38 pm

Easy fix

Just clean off any dust on the seal and tighten it up.

AZS10Crew · Post by **AZS10Crew** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:04 pm

Check the seal on the cap for cracks too. Mine had several cracks in it (one every 1/8" or so) and needed to be replaced.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:30 pm

HenryJ wrote:Easy fix

Just clean off any dust on the seal and tighten it up.

you are talking about the gas cap right HJ?

Post by **HenryJ** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:16 pm

jeff024 wrote:...you are talking about the gas cap right?

You bet. They have it right on the money

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:01 am

not the cap .

I just went to fill her up ,pull in my driveway and gas is leaking from the filler neck I think I havent got under it yet to see exactly where its comming from

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:02 am

some pics of where its leaking

the gas is not comming from the hose more so at the plastic where the hose connects.

any help or a simple fix?

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:14 am

Pulled from the body lift?

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:19 am

No simple fix

That was recently covered in another thread. I think Mark had to pay $800 to replace the tank. He tried all kinds of stuff to seal it up and all failed. Change the topic's name to leaking tank or something and he can fill you in on what he tried.

Sorry

AZS10Crew · Post by **AZS10Crew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:46 am

f9k9 wrote:No simple fix

That was recently covered in another thread. I think Mark had to pay $800 to replace the tank. He tried all kinds of stuff to seal it up and all failed. Change the topic's name to leaking tank or something and he can fill you in on what he tried.

Sorry

You've got it. Tank replacement is the only solution I found. I think this is the third tank filler neck issue related to the BL here. You other guys with BL's may want to consider adding in that filler hose extension if you haven't already.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:59 am

what was the cost and is it something I can do in a few hours?

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:10 am

where might 1 locate a new tank other than the dealer?

Post by **HenryJ** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:28 am

Bummer. I am again wrong

A used tank would probably be the only other option?
One more reason the 2001's are nice...Steel gas tank.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:53 am

will all the componets from my tank swap to a metal tank?

Post by **HenryJ** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:59 am

jeff024 wrote:will all the componets from my tank swap to a metal tank?

Some of them, but not all. The filler neck is larger and has a vent line, that may not exist on yours. The fuel pump/sender assembly may differ as well?

I am not sure what would work and wouldn't.

Availability of used tanks is going to be pretty limited as well. They are just not in the salvage yards around here yet.

Bite the bullet and buy a new tank , I guess.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:16 am

I dont mind buying a new tank just need a good place to buy from.

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:43 am

I had this site in my bookmarks. I did a drill down but I would still call em to confirm before I spent that kind of money. Sorry about the long link but I don't know how to just make it say LINK

LINK

Link't. Try reading the Information Forum- long URL links to short description question , Links , Presto Change-o (URL to link). Feel free to practice in the test forum. -HJ

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:08 pm

hmmm im thinking more like 200 or less

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:18 pm

I have searched the web several times today looking for a fuel tank , any help would be great
thanks in advance

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:28 pm

You can try this guy for a used one. I picked up a posi rear from him a few years ago shipped to my friends shop for $150. It had to be shipped to a business address because it was freight. If he has one he may ship to your door. He has a lot of S-10s and he knows what will fit. Try hitting a body shop near you and maybe they could give you a line on a after market. I will keep looking around myself.

http://www.gaineyautoparts.com/

BADs Crew · Post by **BADs Crew** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:31 pm

Hey Jeff, here's about 20 of them used. Do a drill down and put USA and your zip in the search

http://www.gaineyautoparts.com/inventory.htm

AZS10Crew · Post by **AZS10Crew** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:49 am

I doubt you'll find one for $200...I could be wrong though. It cost me a little over $800 to have mine replaced at a dealership. The parts alone were around $500-$600 I think. Most expensive estimate was when I was still in AZ...they quoted me $1100 to fix it.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:30 am

i just want the tank I have been under ther and it doesnt look like that big a deal just swap everything to the new 1.

I did get it to stop leaking for now , caked on JB weld

AZS10Crew · Post by **AZS10Crew** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:33 pm

The JB Weld will stop the large scale leaking temporarily, but it won't seal everything to make the SES light go out.

I'm not sure what's involved with swapping the tank. There's a lot of stuff plugged into the top of it that I didn't think I wanted to mess with so I just had to bite the bullet and have it done somewhere. I hope it's an easy fix so if others have the same problem it can be a "do-it-yourself" project.

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:12 pm

Might be simpler if you had a garage with open rafters or an engine hoist rented to pull the bed. I could email the SI instructions later this evening.

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:22 pm

I have both of those f9k9

F9K9 · Post by **F9K9** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:52 pm

Email sent. I hope you have "WORD"

jeff024 · Post by **jeff024** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:34 pm

yup brand new puter

THANKS