Crazy Socket Question 6 Pt. Vs 12 Pt.

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Crazy Socket Question 6 Pt. Vs 12 Pt.

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I'm Going Thru & Cleaning Out A Lot Of Stuuf From My Garage. I Have A Lot Of Mixed Sockets And Am Trying To Make A Complete Set Of 1/4" - 3/8" - 1/2" Sockets.

My Question Is Which Is Better 6 Point Or 12 Point Sockets?? Is There Really A Need To Have A Set Of Both In The Same Sizes?

I Was Gonna Do A 1/4" 6 Point Set - A 3/8" 6 & 12 Point Set - A 1/2" 6 Point Set. That Should More Sockets Than I Should Need Shouldn't It??

Any Comments Or Should I Just Delete This Thread And Throw All My Sockets In A 5 Gallon Bucket Then Just Dig For What I Need :lol:
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6 pt is what I was taught to be best. !2 pts will round out. When I was in college and working at a Sears Auto Center I would round them out. I tried to return them for the lifetime warranty and was told that they didn't cover wear. I would take the socket back to the auto section, place them in a vise, break them and then they would replace it. They knew exactly what I was doing :lol:
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6 pt sockets are the preference for me for the last 34 or so years. I have to keep some 12 pt sockets on hand, because some of the starters on the equipment that we have are held on by bolts with a 12 pt head. 6 pt sockets don't round off rusty or worn bolt heads as easily, but it can be done with a 6pt socket.
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coming from a former mechanic here...... all i have is six point!!!! the 12 points i have are for special aaplications....like japanese head bolts!!
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Twelve points are nice. I probably use the six points most of the time in the standard stuff. I don't have many of the six point metrics though.
I am a bit of a "tool junky", so I would probably keep them all.
I think the biggest factor is quality. A good quality twelve point socket will be less likely to "round" a bolt than even a cheap six point socket.
I do keep sets of both and all.
The "yardsale" sockets are spares and those used to weld on, bend or hammer. The good stuff is used for reducing the bloody knuckles.

I have a set of six point deep sockets. Those are probably the ones I grab first.
In the 1/4" drive stuff it is hard to find a twelve point anymore. I have ordered a few for special applications, but don't miss them most of the time.

All my metrics with a few exceptions are twelve point. I can't really say I notice much difference. If something requires enough torque that it will round the bolt, the socket needs to fit tightly. I trash those ill fitting sockets, or replace them. If it really takes alot of torque I go to impact sockets. They are six point.

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Post by Snoman002 »

6 point has more surface area in contact with the bolt head reducing the possability of rounding the head.

12 can be more convient in tight places as the socket does not have to be "just right".

As HJ said though, a quality 12 point can still be better than a cheap 6 point.
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Post by Walt »

You guys ever seen an eight point socket? I came a cross a 20 piece set of craftsman sockets on Ebay a long time ago, before I had aquired most of the tools I have now. When I received the socket set, I was surprised to see eight-point sockets. All 20 of them. I still haven't found a use for them. :lol:
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Walt wrote:You guys ever seen an eight point socket? I came a cross a 20 piece set of craftsman sockets on Ebay a long time ago, before I had aquired most of the tools I have now. When I received the socket set, I was surprised to see eight-point sockets. All 20 of them. I still haven't found a use for them. :lol:
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Post by HenryJ »

Walt wrote:You guys ever seen an eight point socket?
Yes, and have some. They are used for square heads. The drain plugs on small engines, air system plugs, adjusting the kick down band on Chrysler transmissions, and there are even a few of the old square headed bolts out there, to mention a few.
Keep them around, you may find a use for them.

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Post by Walt »

Come to think of it, I did use them once to remove the spark arrestor on my four wheeler to let water drain out of the muffler. It had square head. :)
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