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anyone know any companies out there that make a stealth sub box for a crew cab??? If not, has anyone built their own box and if so how many subs you got? thanks for the info.
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I haven't seen a pre-built boxes for a CC... Not saying they don't exist... Most of the people who have subs in thier CC have either built a box or have gone with a Bazooka Tube...
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MTX Audio, JL Audio, Clarion don't make one and they make them for others...
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i built my own ,2 8s plenty of room behind seat for 8s sounds great
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there have been many threads about this with lots of pictures. do a quick search for subs or what not and see what you come up with. :D :D
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i just put in a 10" with a jlb amp sounds greate i will have pictures soon.i had to remove the back part of the seat and drill new holes in the bars that move the seat back and forth.it moved it up about 2" to look at it you realy cant tell it has bin moved.. :D
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HAVE YOU LOOKED AT POWERED SUBS? SOME MANUFACTURERS MAKE SUBS THAT COME IN A SMALL ENCLOSURE WITH INTERNAL AMP. THE SPECS MIGHT ALLOW IT TO JUST SLIP RIGHT IN, EASY INSTALL.
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I talked to a rep for MTX and he told me they would have a box designed by december if you can wait that long.
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MooreMoney wrote:I talked to a rep for MTX and he told me they would have a box designed by december if you can wait that long.


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That would be nice.....i'm probably going to put a 10" in my truck....i miss the bass from my previous truck(Sonoma 1995 extended cab, 1x12",2x10", 1x350Amp, 1x1000Amp, 1x600Amp) Lots of boom!!! 8) 8)

I as thinking of putting the sub under my seat? i'll wait and see how the MTx would be installed...
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I'm looking for a sub box to complete my system. When I emailed MTX to see if they would have anything with in the 6 months... this was their response.


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Jeff,

Sorry, nothing in the works


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i made a box that hold 2 8's and sounds good,but have anyone tried to put the mtx box made for the reguler cab in a crew cab looking at the boxs it looks like it might fit
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Your right, you would think a reg cab MTX box would fit (its the same dimensions) but I think the problem is the space it sticks out. I think the CC back seat sits closer to the rear than the reb cab seats do.

I would also like to know for sure, because that would be a nice option
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Get this....I was on Crutchfield.com and guess what? MTX makes a single 10" enclosure for the Dakota Quad Cab!!!!! JERKS!!!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :oops: Sorry. :D
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I will try and find the name of the rep that told me the were designing a box.
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i have been wondering about it since i got my 1st s10 crew 2 years ago but i assumed that some one on here must of tried it and if it would have worked everyone would have known about it ,i guess it pays to throw a comment out even it its seems like a dumb one
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8) I have two tens in my truck and it sounds real nice. I didnt even have to mod the seat or nothing. it locks perfectly and all. If you want mesurements let me know ..... and I will hook you up... 8) I also still have the jack and a 400 watt amp. I do have alot of 45 degree angles on it and the subs sit a little weird I also have 1/4 inch thick MDF on the back side. But hey it hits hard and I am really happy .. I also had to cut the carpet out behind the back seat( only where the box will sit.. beacause that 1/4 of an inch makes a differance of whether the seat will lock or not. and on top of that I had to cut three grooves on the bottom of the sub box. (because there are three ridges on the floor board once you remove the carpet. they are also 1/4 inch high. so now the ridges on the truck slide into the grooves of the box. so the box dont slide side to side.) there was a total of 1/2 inch gained.. trust me it matters. the 1/4 thick mdf on back is so the magnet will fit. I f you dont care about cutting into the plastic behind the seat. you can get alot more room for the box. But I didnt cut anything cause you never know when you have to pul it out and it will look like crap. I can give exact mesurments if anyone wants them.. It took me two days to build. But I love it.
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The Q logic 1/2 box fits, its really tight, but it fits. I had a 10" pioneer IMPP in it and it hit ok, nothing fancy, just added a little bass. I did remove the plastic behind the rear seat, under the window. Its real easy to remove, pop it off from the bottom, then lift up on it. The important part is to lift up after you popped all the clips, if you dont, you will break it. I am speaking from experience. STUPID PLASTIC :x . You will also have to remove the E clips and white spacers on the seat back to get it to latch, like I said its really tight and your going to have to slam the seat into place. I shimmed the bottom of the seat foward about a 1/2 inch just to make it a little easier to get the seat to latch. If you decicde to go with a high excursion sub, it will sound like (poopy) because it rubs on the seat. Once again speaking from experience. STUPID HIGH EXCURSION :x . I just havent gotten out there to fix this problem. Its kinda cold now. Hope this helps some of you. The box is about 60 to 70 bucks at best buy or circuit city.
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The Q logic 1/2 box fits....what's that? I know the brand....1/2 a cubic ft. of volume? (Truck box I assume).
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yea its 1/2 cu foot maybe a .65cu foot. its a small box from Q logic. It will fit on the drivers side of the truck behind the rear seat. I didnt get up early enough to "customize" my carpet so Ill do it tomorrow. And as I have learned today, make sure your sub is properly sealed in the box. Double sided foam sticky tape works great.
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I agree with that. I used the window sealer double sided sticky stuff. works great.
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surfing the web today I found a 8" sub that I know will fit w/ a mtx truck box. its at www.ikesound.com. look there for all your other stereo needs. the sub is an audiobahn for like 65 bucks.
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surfing the web today I found a 8" sub that I know will fit w/ a mtx truck box. its at www.ikesound.com. look there for all your other stereo needs. the sub is an audiobahn for like 65 bucks.
8) they have really good prices. but have you ordered from them?
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I have 2 jl audio w6 - 8's behind the back seat in a sealed box with a autotec 500 watt amp, all i did was remove the plastic below the window and the box fits perfect and no problem getting the seat to latch or unlatch, and must say that my 2 8's will hit just as good as 2 10's on any given day just cause i spent a little more money for a better set of 8's that will fit and sound good rather than fighting to fit a single 10, but i am selling these speakers and box, going all out with the new system by going with 4- 12's or 4- 15's so if anyone interested email me
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I have personally not ordered from them, but my best friend has and he has nothing but good things to say about them. :D I will be ordering some stuff from them in the new future.
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I've ordered several items from Ikesound.com -- never had an issue with them at all.

One thing to keep in mind -- when you are looking at a brand on their website and it says that They are not an authorized dealer for that brand -- they mean it. that means that if you ever have a warrany issue with that product, you may be SOL because a receipt from a dealer that is not officially in the manufacturer's auth. dealer list. then you may not be able to get it warranteed.
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I am going to get some one around here to build a box like Justin's box and get a http://www.ikesound.com./product-product_id/1570 put in there with a new Sony 1000watt..... I can have the box made jack cut out and amp installed and sub for some where around 600 $ at Suncoast Sound in Monroe, Louisiana
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Bad_Ass_S10 wrote:I have 2 jl audio w6 - 8's behind the back seat in a sealed box with a autotec 500 watt amp, all i did was remove the plastic below the window and the box fits perfect and no problem getting the seat to latch or unlatch, and must say that my 2 8's will hit just as good as 2 10's on any given day just cause i spent a little more money for a better set of 8's that will fit and sound good rather than fighting to fit a single 10, but i am selling these speakers and box, going all out with the new system by going with 4- 12's or 4- 15's so if anyone interested email me
4 12s or 4 15s dang. highroller was talking about pulling out his back seat and going with 4 15s. all because he want the loudest crew cab around, but it looks like hes got someone to go up againts. BTW I emailed you on thes subs you want to sell.
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i would just take out the back seat and make a fiberglass setup back there. plenty of room thats for sure.
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got my pics up of the stereo. There will be more after christmas. hehe. btw... my dad had a digital camera that he never told me about. hmm wonder why... YOINK. I have a digital camera now. hehe

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Well, I finally got tired of the lack of bass in the truck and installed my amp/sub setup from my old car. Heck, I don't care if the hatch-style box is sitting in my back seat until I get a box built - it's garaged anyways and I can always unplug it.
I've been in communication with a company out of Marshall, TX called The Woodshop (http://www.the-woodshop.com) and they said they had several options available. I need to call them now.
Anyways, I still had my MonsterCable amp install wiring kit and interconnects, so Thursday night I just "up and decided" to do it. :D :D :D :D That's all I've been doing now. It just gives you a great feeling to have your dash all apart, your center console out (just in case), running stuff through the firewall, and be able to put all back without extra screws left (YES! YES! YES!) AND everything work!!! :D Yippie Skippy! And the wife just shakes her head and sighs.... :lol:
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Hey guys, I'm new to the site. :D Been reading past posts and extremely grateful I found this site. Anywho, my name is Tim. I saw something on the subs that might work for our trucks. I don't think this has been posted before but if so, sorry. Thanks Tim

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Those are sweet. MTX makes great stuff. I used to be into sound allot back like 17 years ago. Had Crutchfield amp, Clarion receiver, home made cross-overs. MTX tweaters, kicker subwoofers, pyle drivers. I was rock'n!
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D_Wayne wrote:Hey guys, I'm new to the site. :D Been reading past posts and extremely grateful I found this site. Anywho, my name is Tim. I saw something on the subs that might work for our trucks. I don't think this has been posted before but if so, sorry. Thanks Tim

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Matt, could you do a step by step on how you got your 10" Q-Logic truck box to fit. I went ahead an bought it. The Woodshop had mis-understood me (they just heard S-10), but said they could still do a custom box for around $100 and maybe even $75 if it turned out to be less material. Thanks.
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ok i just got my mtx custom box made for the s10 reg cab the one that sell for about 299 loaded every where and guess what IT FITS,you do have to slam the seat to lock it back in place,i havent had a chance to see how it sounds ,my 8's that i had in there before hit the seat and sounded good,does anyone know how to lift up the rear seat
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ronnie wrote:ok i just got my mtx custom box made for the s10 reg cab the one that sell for about 299 loaded every where and guess what IT FITS,you do have to slam the seat to lock it back in place,i havent had a chance to see how it sounds ,my 8's that i had in there before hit the seat and sounded good,does anyone know how to lift up the rear seat
To raise the seat, just unbolt it and add some washers.

About the speaker box...was it custom made for your truck or is this something that you can buy from Crutchfield or someplace like that? What size speakers are in it? 10's or 12's?
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yes its the thunderform box with a 10 and they have one with an amp in it,heres the link http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-AH ... c=01&avf=Y the part number at crutchfield is 236S21010C, the had an open box for 254.00 and they have fee shipping on orders above 199
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Is that for 1 or a pair? They don't explain much.
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they have the older model that has a 6000 speaker insted of a 6000a for 212 here is the item number 236S1010T
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1 10 the box has .95 of seal air space
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just from experience -- the 1 Bazooka 10" tube I have in my Blazer is loud as most people ever need -- and I am an ex-stereo shop installer and had 6 12's in my last SUV --

1 10 is plenty for good clean tight bass

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Isnt that MTX only 100 watts? doesn seem like much. My buddy said that the sub in the pic is a 9000 (i believe) butit really comes with a 6000.
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A 6000 series MTX is a fine quality woofer. The 8000's were their premium line -- replaced just this year with the 9500 series but the 8000's are still in production too. Looking at the pic on the site from Crutchfield you couldnt tell if it was a 6000 or an 8000 -- the magnet structure is different, but you can't see that from looking at the speaker's front really.

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Now --the 8000 actually has the same mounting depth as the 6000, the 8000's magnet is bigger around but no deeper. So if you wanted to mod your thunderform, I would assume the 8000 would be the best choice.

And wattage is something a speaker handles, not something it has. It's like saying a rear end has 450 horsepower. It may be rated to handle 450 HP, but it doesn't have anything at all. It's a capacity. That and you can blow a speaker with 1 watt of pure distortion if done right. Add in efficiency ratings and such and watt raings really are inconsequential.

But the 6000 series is rated at 250 watts RMS (continuous) power handling with a peak of 500watts.

The 9500 series are their premium new line of performance woofers -- and have huge magnet structures -- and a 9.5 inch mounting depth -- no way you'd ever fit a 9500 behind your rear seat.
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Warnoffroad wrote:Isnt that MTX only 100 watts? doesn seem like much. My buddy said that the sub in the pic is a 9000 (i believe) butit really comes with a 6000.
That's measured in rms, which will out crank any of those cheap imports that claim 1000 watts! I gaurantee ya.
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Gee, I gotta hold myself back. I like setting up nice sound system in vehicles. OK, I won't look, lol. Used to be a hobby of mine back in the 80's. I had a azz kick'n system. I was jam'n when jam'n wasn't cool. :lol:
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quickbiker wrote:Gee, I gotta hold myself back. I like setting up nice sound system in vehicles. OK, I won't look, lol. Used to be a hobby of mine back in the 80's. I had a azz kick'n system. I was jam'n when jam'n wasn't cool. :lol:
Same here...but in the 90's. :) I used to have a nice little 1400 watt system in my reg cab S-10. Ahh...those were the days. 8)
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well - I have my 4 12's and ready to start building my box for them which I plan on doing this weekend and running about 1800 rms to them which should turn out to be pretty loud, a buddy that works at devine sounds ( a stereo shop here in tampa that is ranked DB drag ) is designing my box and all I have to do is cut the wood and piece it together - shouldn't be that hard plus I just got my camera to mount and use as a back up camera so i dont run anyone over at walamart- dang people should know that a big truck will always win when playing chicken- some people dont learn :lol:
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I have one 10" MTXAudio Thunder 6000. It kicks tail, and, honestly, I'm underpowering it (about 200w). By the way, the 8000's have more ribs on the front of the cones (12 vs. 8 I think).
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Ahhh --- you know I didnt even notice that.
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ok just did a quick install of the mtx custom box sound great allot better then my 2 8's ,i am running with a kenwood amp pushing 300X1 rms a little more then suppose to its saids the speaker should have 250rms ,sounds good up to about 75% vol. then it looks like the speaker comes out far enought to hit the seat since it sounds great in side and out below 75% im not in a big hurry to lift my seat ,but it looks like it only needs to be lifted about a 1/4 inch to make the sub happy.but for $254 for the box and the sub well worth it i got an open box retail is 299,crutchfield has free shipping on orders above 199 and if you haven't ordered from crutchfield before let me know i can give you a referal number and you get $20 off 1st order and they give me a credit to,you can email me at info@jeepsnstuff.com
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after a long sleepless night of me, a piece of paper, tape measure and a calculator, I think I have a damn good idea for a box. Fabrication will start this weekend, I will have as many pics as I can posted. Good by 5 seater, hello 2 seater. I plan on pulling out the back seat and rebuilding it with 2 to 4 10" Diamonds in the center part. The best part is that I will still be able to drive people around and go deaf. If your ears dont ring when you get out of the truck. Its just not loud enough.
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www.soundoffaudio.com

They make a customer dual 8" sub enclosure for CREW CABs!!!! Mine's on it's way now. You have only 4" of mounting depth to work with, but a pair of Kicker CompVR 8"s or RF HE 8"s work great. Oh, and the box is less that $100 shipped.
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Which one? How bout this one: http://www.soundoffaudio.com/item.cfm/id/794
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Here is the link for the CC box. http://www.soundoffaudio.com/item.cfm/id/2137
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Mine is on it's way too. :)

Along with a pair of RFZ3408 subs.
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Great! Sounds like three people now have the box on the way, I'm really anxious to get some reviews on the box.

Just keep us all updated, and let us know what sub/amp set up you are using.
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I think I'll wait till everyone verifies they actually get the box. :lol:
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All ya need now is some nice MTX tweeters on the roof. I've been outa da sound mods for a while, can ya still get receivers with 180hz lockout? That's the resonating freq of inside. Worked great when I had it.
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Got the UPS tracking number yesterday. My Box will be here Monday, and then we'll see if it's all it's cracked up to be :-)
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wamason wrote:Got the UPS tracking number yesterday. My Box will be here Monday, and then we'll see if it's all it's cracked up to be :-)
and since it's being shipped by UPS (affecionately known as "gorillas in Brown shirts") you will also get to see if the box itself is cracked up....

Sorry -- I've had issues with UPS in the past.

Boy I'm full of angst towards companies lately aren't I -- I'm really not a negative person normally.
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Just got my box, it's a little different from the one in the pic, mainly because it doesn't fill the space in the bottom right corner of the truck, but it still looks fairly nice. The build quality is good, much better than I expected. I have a pair of CompVR 8"s on the way, I'll let you guys know how everything sounds :-)
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I got the box. Check out my description on the N.O.S. forum.
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well so much for the weekend. The guys that are supposed to help me build the box took it off. I think Im going over to the shop on wed. or thurs. Its a bad ass Idea. However from diamond subs we go to 2 12" Kicker compVR's. in a ported custom made box. Ill let you know about it later.
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quickbiker wrote:Which one? How bout this one: http://www.soundoffaudio.com/item.cfm/id/794
does anyone know if this one fits as well, i like the idea of 10's as opposed to 8's?
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After doing some measuring, I'm sending the box back! They advertise an internal volume of .5 cf per sub, the box they sent me only has .3 cf per sub, so I'm going to get them to make me another one the right way.
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If you are going to use Comp VRs .3 per sub would work pretty well depending on the type of music that you listen to. .3 per will give you a qtc of about .95 to 1.0...that is very good for power. A bigger box will give you better bottom end at the expense of power handling...If you amp has a bass boost built in they should sound pretty good. I had one VR 8 on a 400.1 and it worked really good. I have sence Cut my back bench and turned it into buckets and stacked to L7 8s between the seats fireing forward and run them on a 650.1 SX...What ever you do it should sound really great
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I would prefer 1/2 of a cubic foot per sub....but I guess I'll have to deal with it. I'm taking out 2 10" CompVR's (custom box on the floor), and I've been powering those with three KX 600.1's, so I have power to spare :-D
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I just finished building a box for my truck, but I wount fit behind the back seat - In an earlier post I said I was going for 4 12's well I did and they are in the bed and have cut throughs into the cab. and they get down, 4 MA Audio 12's and 1800 rms MA amp, but still need more power, but still sounds good and clean. but cant no longer haul anything in the bed, the box is 12 cu ft.
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well its a few weeks later and we fineally got a box built, so much for the kicker vr's. Into 4 solo baric L7's. Some ungodly size box, something like 7cu ft. or something. 3000 watts of power. Its just sick. Ill get some pics up real soon. I guess that we would be farther along if I wasnt working with a perfectionist, but I know it will sound very good. No more back seat either, I didnt like it anyway, I had to drive people around with it. Cheap people. Leave the biggest drunk in charge of driving everyone home. Never got gas money either. So much for them, less miles on my truck now anyway. I see this as a win win situation.
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well now its 3 35 am and I just got home from the stereo shop. WOW is all I am going to say. My subs hit so hard that it hurts to even be standing next to the truck. definitely recommend the L7's from solo baric. Its just an ungodly amount of sound and air movement. If anyone is in the chicagoland area definatly check out the guys that did my stereo. Great bunch of guys, and they will hook you up if you tell them that I sent you. Pics will be posted tomorrow when its light outside. Check out the guys at Custom Audio & Alarms. 2076 South Elmhurst Road, Mt. Prospect Illinois 60056. The phone number is 1 847 956 0102. And like I said, just let them know that Matt send you and you read about it on the internet, and I know that they will hook you up. Thanks a lot guys. :D
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Matt wrote:well its a few weeks later and we fineally got a box built, so much for the kicker vr's. Into 4 solo baric L7's. Some ungodly size box, something like 7cu ft. or something. 3000 watts of power. Its just sick. Ill get some pics up real soon. I guess that we would be farther along if I wasnt working with a perfectionist, but I know it will sound very good. No more back seat either, I didnt like it anyway, I had to drive people around with it. Cheap people. Leave the biggest drunk in charge of driving everyone home. Never got gas money either. So much for them, less miles on my truck now anyway. I see this as a win win situation.
:lol: I end of being the one to drive everyone also. Seems that Jeep ppl always take their rear seat out, so I am left as the ppl mover. You gave me an idea! :idea:
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well here it is, its kind of a bad shot, its hard to get a good shot of the backseat when your new speaker box takes up the whole thing. pic is at http://www.s-10crewcab.com/coppermine/d ... p?pos=-309
I hope that you like it, I know that I do. And we will all find out may 2nd how loud it really is. I know its in the 150's db. I hope to see some of you at Custom Car & Audio for the show.
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I guess it works if you dont want the back seats... I bet it thumps like no other... .. I wonder if you could fit two of them behind the seat.. I got TWO 10'S to fit behind my seat . I bet with a little cutting and fabrication you could do it.. looks good .. 8) congrats on the new beats
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Anyone have an update of the Crew Cab box. I know someone had trouble with the box they were sent.

Just looking for an update, see how everything sounds